vis compile stopps after "clusters"

eiM · 2009-05-18 14:03:16 UTC

hey there,

I only made a few changes on my map since the last compile but now my vis stage somehow does not want to compile anymore. Its starting as usual but then listing thousands of “clusters” which view XX numbers of others. Before this is finished it simply closes the compile and goes to the next stage (light). So what is up with these “clusters” ? I’ll attatch the logfile of my vis compilation:

2 threads
Q3Map - v1.0r © 1999 Id Software Inc.
Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.16
GtkRadiant - v1.5.0 Oct 8 2004 08:08:27
Voter turnout
— InitPaths —
VFS Init: E:/Mapping/ET/etmain/
VFS Init: E:/Mapping/ET/etmain/

— Vis —
saveprt = true
Loading E:\Mapping\ET\etmain\maps\c2_missile_alpha7.bsp
Loading E:\Mapping\ET\etmain\maps\c2_missile_alpha7.prt
1444 portalclusters
3651 numportals
5543 numfaces
7302 active portals
318 hint portals
visdatasize:265704

— BasePortalVis (7302) —
0…1…2…3…4…5…6…7…8…9… (1)
6 average number of passages per leaf
20 MB required passage memory

— CreatePassages (7302) —
0…1…2…3…4…5…6…7…8…9… (4)

— PassagePortalFlow (7302) —
0…1…2…3…4…5…6…7…8…9… (16)
creating leaf vis…
cluster 0 : 43 visible
cluster 1 : 43 visible
cluster 2 : 43 visible
cluster 3 : 43 visible
cluster 4 : 43 visible
cluster 5 : 40 visible
cluster 6 : 43 visible
cluster 7 : 30 visible
cluster 8 : 16 visible
cluster 9 : 16 visible
cluster 10 : 76 visible
cluster 11 : 33 visible
cluster 12 : 118 visible
cluster 13 : 52 visible
cluster 14 : 50 visible
cluster 15 : 34 visible
cluster 16 : 50 visible
cluster 17 : 33 visible
cluster 18 : 44 visible
cluster 19 : 15 visible
cluster 20 : 15 visible
cluster 21 : 16 visible
cluster 22 : 16 visible
cluster 23 : 43 visible
cluster 24 : 43 visible
cluster 25 : 43 visible
cluster 26 : 43 visible
cluster 27 : 43 visible
cluster 28 : 181 visible
cluster 29 : 202 visible
cluster 30 : 168 visible
cluster 31 : 58 visible
cluster 32 : 36 visible
cluster 33 : 29 visible
cluster 34 : 101 visible
cluster 35 : 58 visible
cluster 36 : 22 visible
cluster 37 : 43 visible
cluster 38 : 169 visible
cluster 39 : 130 visible
cluster 40 : 72 visible
cluster 41 : 75 visible
cluster 42 : 24 visible
cluster 43 : 41 visible
cluster 44 : 34 visible
cluster 45 : 113 visible
cluster 46 : 86 visible
cluster 47 : 53 visible
cluster 48 : 200 visible
cluster 49 : 132 visible
cluster 50 : 205 visible
cluster 51 : 62 visible
cluster 52 : 29 visible
cluster 53 : 24 visible
cluster 54 : 112 visible
cluster 55 : 109 visible
cluster 56 : 85 visible
cluster 57 : 122 visible
cluster 58 : 116 visible
cluster 59 : 213 visible
cluster 60 : 130 visible
cluster 61 : 39 visible
cluster 62 : 44 visible
cluster 63 : 129 visible
cluster 64 : 31 visible
cluster 65 : 178 visible
cluster 66 : 197 visible
cluster 67 : 235 visible
cluster 68 : 30 visible
cluster 69 : 102 visible
cluster 70 : 63 visible
cluster 71 : 131 visible
cluster 72 : 103 visible
cluster 73 : 110 visible
cluster 74 : 89 visible
cluster 75 : 127 visible
cluster 76 : 44 visible
cluster 77 : 123 visible
cluster 78 : 110 visible
cluster 79 : 148 visible
cluster 80 : 122 visible
cluster 81 : 136 visible
cluster 82 : 142 visible
cluster 83 : 97 visible
cluster 84 : 68 visible
cluster 85 : 46 visible
cluster 86 : 65 visible
cluster 87 : 16 visible
cluster 88 : 16 visible
cluster 89 : 41 visible
cluster 90 : 40 visible
cluster 91 : 41 visible
cluster 92 : 40 visible
cluster 93 : 41 visible
cluster 94 : 141 visible
cluster 95 : 150 visible
cluster 96 : 146 visible
cluster 97 : 144 visible
cluster 98 : 215 visible
cluster 99 : 196 visible
cluster 100 : 78 visible
cluster 101 : 188 visible
cluster 102 : 151 visible
cluster 103 : 153 visible
cluster 104 : 250 visible
cluster 105 : 201 visible
cluster 106 : 277 visible
cluster 107 : 179 visible
cluster 108 : 80 visible
cluster 109 : 179 visible
cluster 110 : 258 visible
cluster 111 : 80 visible
cluster 112 : 124 visible
cluster 113 : 171 visible
cluster 114 : 74 visible
cluster 115 : 212 visible
cluster 116 : 211 visible
cluster 117 : 186 visible
cluster 118 : 230 visible
cluster 119 : 194 visible
cluster 120 : 183 visible
cluster 121 : 180 visible
cluster 122 : 209 visible
cluster 123 : 193 visible
cluster 124 : 195 visible
cluster 125 : 195 visible
cluster 126 : 173 visible
cluster 127 : 190 visible
cluster 128 : 193 visible
cluster 129 : 191 visible
cluster 130 : 193 visible
cluster 131 : 198 visible
cluster 132 : 173 visible
cluster 133 : 189 visible
cluster 134 : 171 visible
cluster 135 : 188 visible
cluster 136 : 172 visible
cluster 137 : 161 visible
cluster 138 : 199 visible
cluster 139 : 162 visible
cluster 140 : 153 visible
cluster 141 : 174 visible
cluster 142 : 215 visible
cluster 143 : 66 visible
cluster 144 : 117 visible
cluster 145 : 80 visible
cluster 146 : 213 visible
cluster 147 : 221 visible
cluster 148 : 221 visible
cluster 149 : 219 visible
cluster 150 : 217 visible
cluster 151 : 216 visible
cluster 152 : 195 visible
cluster 153 : 216 visible
cluster 154 : 192 visible
cluster 155 : 190 visible
cluster 156 : 161 visible
cluster 157 : 216 visible
cluster 158 : 237 visible
cluster 159 : 201 visible
cluster 160 : 226 visible
cluster 161 : 23 visible
cluster 162 : 81 visible
cluster 163 : 80 visible
cluster 164 : 39 visible
cluster 165 : 195 visible
cluster 166 : 121 visible
cluster 167 : 91 visible
cluster 168 : 53 visible
cluster 169 : 225 visible
cluster 170 : 170 visible
cluster 171 : 178 visible
cluster 172 : 227 visible
cluster 173 : 180 visible
cluster 174 : 186 visible
cluster 175 : 190 visible
cluster 176 : 27 visible
cluster 177 : 169 visible
cluster 178 : 34 visible
cluster 179 : 50 visible
cluster 180 : 37 visible
cluster 181 : 46 visible
cluster 182 : 171 visible
cluster 183 : 124 visible
cluster 184 : 36 visible
cluster 185 : 49 visible
cluster 186 : 38 visible
cluster 187 : 44 visible
cluster 188 : 170 visible
cluster 189 : 16 visible
cluster 190 : 16 visible
cluster 191 : 41 visible
cluster 192 : 40 visible
cluster 193 : 41 visible
cluster 194 : 40 visible
cluster 195 : 41 visible
cluster 196 : 39 visible
cluster 197 : 60 visible
cluster 198 : 64 visible
cluster 199 : 171 visible
cluster 200 : 50 visible
cluster 201 : 50 visible
cluster 202 : 26 visible
cluster 203 : 26 visible
cluster 204 : 50 visible
cluster 205 : 50 visible
cluster 206 : 27 visible
cluster 207 : 24 visible
cluster 208 : 50 visible
cluster 209 : 129 visible
cluster 210 : 166 visible
cluster 211 : 50 visible
cluster 212 : 18 visible
cluster 213 : 18 visible
cluster 214 : 19 visible
cluster 215 : 136 visible
cluster 216 : 105 visible
cluster 217 : 97 visible
cluster 218 : 107 visible
cluster 219 : 84 visible
cluster 220 : 167 visible
cluster 221 : 108 visible
cluster 222 : 93 visible
cluster 223 : 64 visible
cluster 224 : 63 visible
cluster 886 : 287 visible
cluster 887 : 288 visible
cluster 888 : 122 visible
cluster 889 : 307 visible
cluster 890 : 237 visible
cluster 891 : 236 visible
cluster 892 : 229 visible
cluster 893 : 97 visible
cluster 894 : 200 visible
cluster 895 : 184 visible
cluster 896 : 145 visible
cluster 897 : 75 visible
cluster 898 : 206 visible
cluster 899 : 109 visible
cluster 900 : 117 visible
cluster 901 : 55 visible
cluster 902 : 51 visible
cluster 903 : 60 visible
cluster 904 : 20 visible
cluster 905 : 21 visible
cluster 906 : 189 visible
cluster 907 : 43 visible
cluster 908 : 53 visible
cluster 909 : 57 visible
cluster 910 : 29 visible
cluster 911 : 61 visible
cluster 912 : 58 visible
cluster 913 : 40 visible
cluster 914 : 42 visible
cluster 915 : 29 visible
cluster 916 : 37 visible
cluster 917 : 30 visible
cluster 918 : 32 visible
cluster 919 : 66 visible
cluster 920 : 35 visible
cluster 921 : 28 visible
cluster 922 : 66 visible
cluster 923 : 44 visible
cluster 924 : 53 visible
cluster 925 : 74 visible
cluster 926 : 28 visible
cluster 927 : 26 visible
cluster 928 : 23 visible
cluster 929 : 69 visible
cluster 930 : 49 visible
cluster 931 : 25 visible
cluster 932 : 68 visible
cluster 933 : 47 visible
cluster 934 : 67 visible
cluster 935 : 23 visible
cluster 936 : 92 visible
cluster 937 : 46 visible
cluster 938 : 94 visible
cluster 939 : 144 visible
cluster 940 : 67 visible
cluster 941 : 92 visible
cluster 942 : 119 visible
cluster 943 : 130 visible
cluster 944 : 124 visible
cluster 945 : 54 visible
cluster 946 : 47 visible
cluster 947 : 59 visible
cluster 948 : 71 visible
cluster 949 : 94 visible
cluster 950 : 45 visible
cluster 951 : 126 visible
cluster 952 : 94 visible
cluster 953 : 103 visible
cluster 954 : 141 visible
cluster 955 : 83 visible
cluster 956 : 141 visible
cluster 957 : 35 visible
cluster 958 : 57 visible
cluster 959 : 37 visible
cluster 960 : 33 visible
cluster 961 : 33 visible
cluster 962 : 18 visible
cluster 963 : 31 visible
cluster 964 : 14 visible
cluster 965 : 28 visible
cluster 966 : 12 visible
cluster 967 : 26 visible
cluster 968 : 7 visible
cluster 969 : 11 visible
cluster 970 : 21 visible
cluster 971 : 22 visible
cluster 972 : 20 visible
cluster 973 : 37 visible
cluster 974 : 12 visible
cluster 975 : 35 visible
cluster 976 : 12 visible
cluster 977 : 35 visible
cluster 978 : 20 visible
cluster 979 : 33 visible
cluster 980 : 20 visible
cluster 981 : 32 visible
cluster 982 : 21 visible
cluster 983 : 28 visible
cluster 984 : 8 visible
cluster 985 : 26 visible
cluster 986 : 36 visible
cluster 987 : 64 visible
cluster 988 : 23 visible
cluster 989 : 28 visible
cluster 990 : 23 visible
cluster 991 : 57 visible
cluster 992 : 61 visible
cluster 993 : 73 visible
cluster 994 : 49 visible
cluster 995 : 78 visible
cluster 996 : 35 visible
cluster 997 : 46 visible
cluster 998 : 147 visible
cluster 999 : 107 visible
cluster 1000 : 104 visible
cluster 1001 : 79 visible
cluster 1002 : 17 visible
cluster 1003 : 89 visible
cluster 1004 : 68 visible
cluster 1005 : 16 visible
cluster 1006 : 23 visible
cluster 1007 : 21 visible
cluster 1008 : 70 visible
cluster 1009 : 93 visible
cluster 1010 : 57 visible
cluster 1011 : 75 visible
cluster 1012 : 32 visible
cluster 1013 : 98 visible
cluster 1014 : 100 visible
cluster 1015 : 89 visible
cluster 1016 : 99 visible
cluster 1018 : 110 visible
cluster 1019 : 307 visible
cluster 1020 : 31 visible
cluster 1021 : 150 visible
cluster 1022 : 217 visible
cluster 1023 : 25 visible
cluster 1024 : 152 visible
cluster 1025 : 25 visible
cluster 1026 : 31 visible
cluster 1027 : 36 visible
cluster 1028 : 31 visible
cluster 1029 : 35 visible
cluster 1030 : 205 visible
cluster 1031 : 23 visible
cluster 1032 : 21 visible
cluster 1033 : 18 visible
cluster 1034 : 73 visible
cluster 1035 : 63 visible
cluster 1036 : 155 visible
cluster 1037 : 152 visible
cluster 1038 : 173 visible
cluster 1039 : 50 visible
cluster 1040 : 179 visible
cluster 1041 : 123 visible
cluster 1042 : 115 visible
cluster 1043 : 97 visible
cluster 1044 : 117 visible
cluster 1045 : 115 visible
cluster 1046 : 51 visible
cluster 1047 : 162 visible
cluster 1048 : 52 visible
cluster 1049 : 84 visible
cluster 1050 : 92 visible
cluster 1051 : 95 visible
cluster 1052 : 135 visible
cluster 1053 : 138 visible
cluster 1054 : 61 visible
cluster 1055 : 192 visible
cluster 1056 : 122 visible
cluster 1057 : 97 visible
cluster 1058 : 129 visible
cluster 1059 : 116 visible
cluster 1060 : 202 visible
cluster 1061 : 211 visible
cluster 1062 : 186 visible
cluster 1063 : 248 visible
cluster 1064 : 247 visible
cluster 1065 : 227 visible
cluster 1066 : 229 visible
cluster 1067 : 218 visible
cluster 1068 : 94 visible
cluster 1069 : 78 visible
cluster 1070 : 253 visible
cluster 1071 : 85 visible
cluster 1072 : 223 visible
cluster 1073 : 87 visible
cluster 1074 : 247 visible
cluster 1075 : 183 visible
cluster 1076 : 248 visible
cluster 1077 : 79 visible
cluster 1078 : 181 visible
cluster 1079 : 79 visible
cluster 1080 : 100 visible
cluster 1081 : 245 visible
cluster 1082 : 336 visible
cluster 1083 : 331 visible
cluster 1084 : 185 visible
cluster 1085 : 333 visible
cluster 1086 : 282 visible
cluster 1087 : 346 visible
cluster 1088 : 188 visible
cluster 1089 : 165 visible
cluster 1090 : 316 visible
cluster 1091 : 245 visible
cluster 1092 : 198 visible
cluster 1093 : 99 visible
cluster 1094 : 106 visible
cluster 1095 : 241 visible
cluster 1096 : 243 visible
cluster 1097 : 271 visible
cluster 1098 : 245 visible
cluster 1099 : 214 visible
cluster 1100 : 58 visible
cluster 1101 : 243 visible
cluster 1102 : 23 visible
cluster 1103 : 229 visible
cluster 1104 : 232 visible
cluster 1105 : 22 visible
cluster 1106 : 222 visible
cluster 1107 : 84 visible
cluster 1108 : 136 visible
cluster 1109 : 120 visible
cluster 1110 : 123 visible
cluster 1111 : 125 visible
cluster 1112 : 190 visible
cluster 1113 : 172 visible
cluster 1114 : 151 visible
cluster 1115 : 143 visible
cluster 1116 : 93 visible
cluster 1117 : 102 visible
cluster 1118 : 133 visible
cluster 1119 : 246 visible
cluster 1120 : 103 visible
cluster 1121 : 115 visible
cluster 1122 : 116 visible
cluster 1123 : 188 visible
cluster 1124 : 19 visible
cluster 1125 : 213 visible
cluster 1126 : 147 visible
cluster 1127 : 22 visible
cluster 1128 : 208 visible
cluster 1129 : 148 visible
cluster 1130 : 79 visible
cluster 1131 : 43 visible
cluster 1132 : 213 visible
cluster 1133 : 90 visible
cluster 1134 : 98 visible
cluster 1135 : 48 visible
cluster 1136 : 48 visible
cluster 1137 : 53 visible
cluster 1138 : 43 visible
cluster 1139 : 50 visible
cluster 1140 : 206 visible
cluster 1141 : 45 visible
cluster 1142 : 86 visible
cluster 1143 : 12 visible
cluster 1144 : 12 visible
cluster 1145 : 39 visible
cluster 1146 : 51 visible
cluster 1147 : 51 visible
cluster 1148 : 51 visible
cluster 1149 : 48 visible

Help appreciated!

Regards,
eiM

DerSaidin · 2009-05-18 22:02:45 UTC

Is it broken, or just being verbose?

eiM · 2009-05-18 22:51:18 UTC

it is broken. the bat-window of the compiler in radiant closes and goes to the next step and my q3map2GUI simply disconnects from the stage and goes on to the next one.

When I check r_showtris 2 ingame there are no portals used just as if I didnt compile vis at all.

SSF-Sage · 2009-05-18 23:27:10 UTC

Almost same thing happens for me on bigger maps. The difference is that when the batch window closes, the compile is finished (atleast almost) and the logging stops after quite many clusters listed. Vis works great tho.

So I think it compiles, but doesn’t log to the end like it does for me, and possibly your vis is leaking so you don’t notice a difference. Does your r_speeds chance? Have you tried r_lockpvs 1 (let’s you see which faces were drawn from the portal you were standing in)?

eiM · 2009-05-19 13:44:44 UTC

when I enable r_speeds 1 and move around the console messages change but I never worked with this command so can’t tell what its saying^^

mh also no change at r_lockpvs 1 either with showtris 0 1 2 . When exactly should something change here?

The map is not leaked I tested that with my bsp compile, so apparently its not completing the compile but the vis is also not working… which is a no-go =(

merlin1991 · 2009-05-19 21:47:00 UTC

r_showtris 1 draws triangles over every surface in sight

r_showtris 2 draws triangles over every surface that got rendered --> 2 is the correct command to see if vis is compiled

Detoeni · 2009-05-19 23:14:47 UTC

[QUOTE=eiM;190879]…1444 portalclusters
[/QUOTE]

Your structurally brushwork is too complex. This number should be low hundreds (200>300) for a good size map

eiM · 2009-05-19 23:32:38 UTC

mh my mapping partner didnt do much detail brushes in the latest updates but didnt bother to fix that yet. Might be the problem but actually I already did quite well detail optimisation along with hints etc… Dersaidin persuaded me Will try still…

I also tried to use a high blocksize value just to see whether it were too much portals but it didnt help aswell.

edit:
Also checked that there are no compile errors or warnings in the BSP phase. No entities leaked or whatever, mapcoords are correct and I scaled the blocksize command to 4096. The only structural brushes I have are those surrounding my rooms or the outside world, there is not much to optimise to be honest.

Can I make curves to detail? always when I try nothing happens so I thought they’re not possible to change?

eiM · 2009-05-20 17:18:57 UTC

Radiant screenshot

for those who want to take a look on how my radiant looks when I filter detailbrushes. Failry clean if you ask me so there must be something else… :<

edit:

now that I did some random updates and changes the compile still stops at some point but the vis works in the .bsp file. No clue why but its working for now .x

obsidian · 2009-05-21 01:55:18 UTC

Patchmeshes are not used by vis so there is no “detail” or “structural” state for them. They are just completely ignored as if they were detail brushes. That’s why you need to seal meshes from the void using caulk behind them.