[UPDATED] Matchmaking Balance Issue

(RazielWarmonic) #1

Hey Dirty players,

Since the launch of Ranked Season 1 we’ve been investigating reports of very highly ranked players (Cobalt/Elite) being matched up against Bronze and Silver players. Thanks to player reports, we’ve been able to track down the issue and will be rolling out a back-end update today.

Unfortunately, this fix will also result in some players being de-ranked down to Gold Specialist, due to the re-normalization of the skill rating distribution. This will ensure that these players can continue to find matches against others in the short-term.

The affected players will still be awarded the Trinket for the highest rank they have earned up until this point, but we encourage them to rank up again for the true prestige.

Ultimately this change should result in more balanced ranked games for all our players. Future games will be more consistently matched around actual skill level.

Cheers,
Raziel Warmonic

(420toaster) #2

I hope so as I am not the best player and certainly not the worst but it does get old quick doing the spawn and run to death scenario over n over. Not to mention half the team just leaves making it 5x as hard to accomplish anything.

(SirMurder) #3

THIS AUTONAMER LMFAO! LETS TAKE GRAVE MEME LETS GO

(gossamerYouth) #4

Has annyone made cobalt / elite already?

It seems like all ex- elites cant make it past gold these days.
Why they cant get past gold?

  • They get put ingame with random silver / bronze who have no clue what they are doing.
  • People leaving the team is almost 50% ending up in 4 vs 5
  • Ending up with 0 medics
  • Ending up with 5 fraggers
  • etc etc

This way the good players cant rank up, thus having to play vs silvers / bronze.
Result: silver / bronze players have to play people who should be elite.

Evidence: Look for Lightnings stream he is one of the best players from EU and cant get passed gold2 after 150+ matches, due to noob teammates. Thus silvers have to play him.

*if we could play in teams again, you can rank up in your own skillrange. This way u get cobalt / elite again. And the solo Q ers will end up bronze silver and everybody gets to play his own skill. Problem solved

An other reason this solo / duo Q = fail.

(Randomdeath) #5

I have an idea to fix this: Don’t play ranked… NO WAIT I HAVE A BETTER IDEA: Remove ranked since you devs cant freakin control it

(RazielWarmonic) #6

I have updated the post with relevant information.

Cheers.

(dnbradio) #7

[quote=“gossamerYouth;156441”]Has annyone made cobalt / elite already?

It seems like all ex- elites cant make it past gold these days.

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(Kingsley) #8

[quote=“dnbradio;156600”][quote=“gossamerYouth;156441”]Has annyone made cobalt / elite already?

It seems like all ex- elites cant make it past gold these days.

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You still have elite?

(Kingsley) #9

[quote=“RazielWarmonic;24759”]This will ensure that these players can continue to find matches against others in the short-term.
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I appreciate the rollback and the fix, but are you sure on that? I’m now experiencing a bit of conflict with MM.

My first attempt to queue as a rollback’d gold specialist resulted in a MM failed error after a 16 minute queue.
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And my second attempt is on-going
I’ll start logging things down for a report if it’ll help.

(RazielWarmonic) #10

That always helps, would really appreciate if you did that! Thanks!

(dnbradio) #11

Ehm, I used to find games in 30sec to 3mins max before this reroll… now I’m in a queue for 1hour and still nothing…

(RazielWarmonic) #12

We are investigating this issue at the moment. :S Bare with us, please!

(Kingsley) #13

We are investigating this issue at the moment. :S Bare with us, please![/quote]

Great to hear, I’m also experiencing extremely long queues as a Gold 3 Specialist.
And before the update I was finding matches within the same span of time as dbnradio.

(JTizzle495) #14

I’m sorry about posting this here, but I have no clue where else I would post this (I also posted this on the steam forums disscussion page and sent it in as feedback in game just FYI) so…I have a great idea (well, I like to think it’s a great one) for a new gamemode, or to have as a second varient of each gamemode or whatever, but my idea is to have each player choose one of the mercs in thier squad, but instead of the other two being usless sitting in a helicopter or something like that, they’re still running around on the battlefield, but instead being controlled by some sort of AI rather than the player. I was also hoping that maybe you could put in some kind of singleplayer practice mode for people to hone thier skills on bots, or maybe get a bit more xp or something like that. That’s all I have to say really, so, yeah, please consider my idea and hopefully use it, because that would be f*cking awesome! Thanks for the great free game! You guys just keep doing what you’re doing, stay awesome!

(solace_) #15

I don’t think peoples ranks should solely be based upon whether or not they won the game. It should be that, but also include things such as your kill to death ratio, your support XP, your objective XP such as completing XP, number of headshots compared to total kills, number of finishes, ability XP, etc. not to mention your overall ranking in the game and on your team. Were you the number one player in the game? on your team? but you still lost? you should still gain rank for that IMO. This is more important than ever now that most comp games are singlets or maybe doublets on teams. Yes there is still in the game voice chat, however, you are playing with people you don’t know and there should be lenience on account of that. just my thoughts on comp anyway.

Last season or pre-season or whatever it was, I found it extremely difficult to rank up because most of the time I would get matched with people, who I hate to say something like this I have no intention of being mean, but were basically incompetent at Dirty Bomb and really didn’t know how to work as a team. Like for instance not having the courtesy to switch to medic if you are the last to spawn in on the team, or if there is already a vasilli in the match and they decide to play vasilli anyhow. I know it is just a video game, however it would be nice if the experience was more tailored towards people who are able to do well in the game and have put the hours into the game in order to get good and improve at the game. I am not trying to whine, just point some things out to the devs that are potentially wrong with the games competitive mode. Thanks for reading if you did.

(gossamerYouth) #16

@succinctDeer imo that won’t work. If people start going for highest xp / most frags in comp mode all teamplay is lost.

Your point about not being able to rank up with noob teammates i completely agree on. The new season has not fixed that but made it worse. It is also the reason me and my clan quit DB till we can play in teams again.

A tip to you. Add the people in your friendlist that are good players, that do communicate.
In some time you will have a huge friendlist of decent players you can que with.

When people get to make teams again most of the time they will all be around the same skillrange.
If they are too low, you dont wanna play with them
and if your average the top players dont wanna play with you cause u will hold them back.
Thus resulting in teams composed of players that are all around the same skill.

Last season me and my friends all ranked up around the same time and we all ended up cobalt 2 /3

For this season, get used to playing with total noobs or quit till next season like most of the comp community.

(solace_) #17

[quote=“gossamerYouth;157071”]@succinctDeer imo that won’t work. If people start going for highest xp / most frags in comp mode all teamplay is lost.

Your point about not being able to rank up with noob teammates i completely agree on. The new season has not fixed that but made it worse. It is also the reason me and my clan quit DB till we can play in teams again.

A tip to you. Add the people in your friendlist that are good players, that do communicate.
In some time you will have a huge friendlist of decent players you can que with.

When people get to make teams again most of the time they will all be around the same skillrange.
If they are too low, you dont wanna play with them
and if your average the top players dont wanna play with you cause u will hold them back.
Thus resulting in teams composed of players that are all around the same skill.

Last season me and my friends all ranked up around the same time and we all ended up cobalt 2 /3

For this season, get used to playing with total noobs or quit till next season like most of the comp community.

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I don’t see how my idea wouldn’t work or discourages teamplay. If anything it encourages communication so that the medic knows where to best put the heals and who to reivive, or for everyone to cover the engi while he completes and objective. How much you rank up or down would be based on your overall performance not just amount of XP or kills but a combination of a lot of factors. I agree it would be stupid if you just ranked up because you got the most kills. That obviously wouldn’t work. You would still rank up more if you actually won the game Im just trying to make a suggestion that allows players who do well in a match to at least make some progress towards their next rank.

yeah, I know its a good idea to do that but I never got around to it last season. maybe this time…