to Steam, or not to Steam

(SockDog) #241

:rolleyes:

Why should SD waste resources coding functions exclusively for the PC when they are covered in Live, PSN and perfectly well on the PC with Steam?

Re: Live/PSN being optional.

What are you smoking? They’re baked into the actual OS, you have ZERO option whether you run them or not. Sure you can sign in/out of the service but what do you think handles achievements? It’s certainly not ever developer implementing their own achievement system.

Re: Mandatory

You feel this way because it’s a third party Program/API. If Steam was an MS product and baked into the OS you wouldn’t even question it, just like you don’t even notice it on the 360 and PS3. I actually find it amusing that you’re against being able to see when it’s running and close it, uninstall if you want.

And lets end it there, I don’t fancy another circularly and pointless argument from your strained perspective.

(signofzeta) #242

Why should SD waste resources coding functions exclusively for the PC when they are covered in Live, PSN and perfectly well on the PC with Steam?[/quote]

how is that any different from playing a xbox 360 game using a profile that does not have xbox live? I assume that all xbox 360 games, and all PS3 games don’t need xbox live or PSN to at least play offline single player, or offline lan.

Why should PC games need steam when all you want to do is play offline? What, need a friends list and achievements for offline lan parties? Like I don’t know who is sitting inside my house on the other end of my lan connection.

You are also not thinking outside the steam box. I mean, if steam has such and such features, does Brink have to have such and such features such as friends list? You come to assume that Brink and Steam’s features need to be shared. A Steamless Brink would just be Friends listless, achievementless, and all bare bones, perhaps no online to an extreme extent.

Anything associated with steam does not necessarily have to be associated with Brink. The friends list is associated with steam. It does not have to be associated with Brink. Brink does not have a friends list. Steam does. If there is no steam, then no friends list. Simple as that.

quote=SockDog;227474

Re: Live/PSN being optional.

What are you smoking? They’re baked into the actual OS, you have ZERO option whether you run them or not. Sure you can sign in/out of the service but what do you think handles achievements? It’s certainly not ever developer implementing their own achievement system.

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Um, have you even tried to play a game without xbox live? Achievments? Does not get recorded into your xbox liveless account. Gamerscore? Don’t have xbox live, therefore no score. I can run NHL 10 without the use of PSN. Just that I don’t get any trophies, no roster updates, and no online play. How is that any different?

Baked into the OS my arse.

Update. I just played World at War with an account that does not have xbox live. Now that is saying something right there.

(LyndonL) #243

I still don’t see why you’re bothering to type this stuff? What about “it’s using Steam, end of story” do you not understand? No amount of German-Kid whinging and stomping your feet is going to change that!!!

Deal with it, accept it, and move on… OR admit defeat and go find another game to whine at!!!

(PsYcHo) #244

Hm, Steam is okay! But not Steam only.
Steam is not bad but it can have much errors, thats the problem …

(AnthonyDa) #245

(PsYcHo) #246


Yes, there are much :stuck_out_tongue:

(signofzeta) #247

the resason why some people don’t like steam is that steam hated them first.

(light_sh4v0r) #248

What’s your point? Can’t really see which side of the argument that statement supports.

(DarkangelUK) #249

I think it was a poor attempt at being funny… just leave him to it and pretend to laugh… hahahaha!

(signofzeta) #250

it was supposed to be funny, but true too. Nobody would hate steam unless there was an error message that they encountered.

So therefore, steam sends error messages indiscriminately to random people becuase they “hate” them.

(Joe999) #251

it was a good attempt, i loled. and there’s truth in what he says

(AnthonyDa) #252


STEAM servers down, I can’t play with my friend or can’t play at all, STEAM <3

(Ruldolph) #253

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:rolleyes::eek::rolleyes::eek::armadillochase:

(RR2DO2) #254

Please stop ranting about steam in a pointless manner, down time is something that tends to happen to any online service now and then. A more productive way of showing a dislike for Steam with downtime issues would be to collect statistics from various services and see if Steam shows a higher outage than others.

(SockDog) #255

Have to say in 250hrs of L4D1+2 I can count the Steam issues on one hand. IME no worse than anything else and from memory even Live and PSN suffer downtime at seasonal/release peaks or just randomly.

If anything my own PC has always been the most unreliable aspect of my PC gaming, I won’t start posting BSOD, error boxes and pictures of leaky mobo capacitors though. :slight_smile:

(Apples) #256

May resume what some of us think about steam I guess.

No redcard please, its not yet the soccer worldcup and I already went with all the arguments I had about steam on this thread, and nothing will be done anyway, btw, as the decision as already be made I guess this topic should be closed… Or it will keep you guyz occupied with red/yellow cards all the place! Its publisher’s decision, nothing can be done about that, then why the thread’s still open? Especially when any negative opinion is sent down the toilet, or at least have the decency to rename it :smiley: “WE LOVE STEAM boOoYa!”

Peace

(DarkangelUK) #257

I’d be happy for it to be renamed to we love Steam, +1 for me! \o/

(AnthonyDa) #258

And how are we supposed to do this ?

(signofzeta) #259

games should never be controlled by whether a third party server is down or not. If i buy a game, I should be able to play it 24/7. Also steam has a fair share of mistakes. I believe this is id’s fault, but how come my steam version of Doom 2 does not have the files necessary for multiplayer? It doesn’t have setup.exe, but that is besides the point.

If something like this is supposedly mandatory, you’d better be sure the steam servers are up 24/7 with no downtime for anybody in the world. So it seems, this isn’t the case yet.

(SockDog) #260

@Apples/AnthonyDa - I believe the point was repeatedly posting “Haw haw haw it’s crashed” pictures is hardly conducive to an argument or opinion, it’s pretty much just trolling the thread for the sake of it.