Tired of this -_-


(Akash) #1

Here is the thing… i play sparks mostly and i try to reviver hit enemies with partial charge… this takes a while to kill an enemy and during which ANOTHER PLAYER GRABS MY KILL -_- .
Face it… We all have the moments where we duel with an opponent and they kill you with 4% life left and your teammate kill them and get their kill. You go get a ASSIST exp but that doesn’t help much as you miss out on badges.
The QUAD Kill you got would have been a Rampage badge if my kills weren’t stolen :frowning:
This is really frustrating.
I know this is a team based game but why not convert an assist exp of 70+ into a kill and the person who gets the 25 exp gets the assist ? This prevents kill steals and makes smaller mercs get more kills since most of the time they die in the duels due to low health!! IS this a good idea?


(ClemClem7) #2

If you are dead and your team-mate get the kill, you can’t have the kill, you’re dead, even if he just did 2damage and you did 198. If he wasn’t here, the rhino would not die.
On average, you get as many assist as your teammates get their at equivalent combat skill unless he’s a kill-stealer. Sometime you steal a kill, sometimes he get. Don’t care about KD or badges in this game, care about doing the right thing (hence the objective).

Don’t charge partially your revivr, unless you already hit him with a full charge. It’s preferable to land a full charge and if you miss, retreat or take your prim… Ahem, SECONDary. It’s not a great deal to fight with the revivr as it has very low dps. You only have a quite good first hit.


(Akash) #3

@ClemClem7 but most of them are kill stealers :frowning: they charge into a duel and get the final blow… i understand your point but the happiness you get when you receive a GODLike is not equivalent to 15 assist badge
and about sparks… Thanks for the tip… i take just two hits of reviver to kill a person… i miss a lot when i full charge it


(FalC_16) #4

“assist counts as kill” is part of Battlefield 4. I kind a like the idea…but after all…whats the point of having kills in this game? Playing the objective is the ultimate goal here. If you want XP go for revives primarily…not kills…there are other mercs to do that.


(Jostabeere) #5

Play a more offensive merc whose role is killing and not a medic with a gun which main purpose is to revive people.


(Amerika) #6

[quote=“Akash;30872”]Here is the thing… i play sparks mostly and i try to reviver hit enemies with partial charge… this takes a while to kill an enemy and during which ANOTHER PLAYER GRABS MY KILL -_- .
Face it… We all have the moments where we duel with an opponent and they kill you with 4% life left and your teammate kill them and get their kill. You go get a ASSIST exp but that doesn’t help much as you miss out on badges.
The QUAD Kill you got would have been a Rampage badge if my kills weren’t stolen :frowning:
This is really frustrating.
I know this is a team based game but why not convert an assist exp of 70+ into a kill and the person who gets the 25 exp gets the assist ? This prevents kill steals and makes smaller mercs get more kills since most of the time they die in the duels due to low health!! IS this a good idea?
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I get what you’re saying but you don’t typically play a medic, even ones as capable of killing as DB’s medics all our compared to other game, and expect to just dominate. They are a bit weaker when it comes to tools to use to kill outside of staying alive. And your main job is to make sure they stay alive and are revived which is going to lead to more people being around you to kill steal.

So it kind of comes with the territory when playing Sparks and any medic like that.

I wouldn’t mind a system where if you did at least 50% of the damage to a person but didn’t get the final blow to give you a kill for it as opposed to an assist. But it works out pretty well as is because you will sometimes get final blows yourself where you didn’t do a whole lot of personal damage. Speaking of damage, I would love to see damage done be put up as a stat at the end of the game.


(dlux) #7

To me it sounds like OP is that guy that whines into the mic that tells me to stop “stealing” his kills.


(arcaneCanvas) #8

[quote=“Akash;30872”]Here is the thing… i play sparks mostly and i try to reviver hit enemies with partial charge… this takes a while to kill an enemy and during which ANOTHER PLAYER GRABS MY KILL -_- .
Face it… We all have the moments where we duel with an opponent and they kill you with 4% life left and your teammate kill them and get their kill. You go get a ASSIST exp but that doesn’t help much as you miss out on badges.
The QUAD Kill you got would have been a Rampage badge if my kills weren’t stolen :frowning:
This is really frustrating.
I know this is a team based game but why not convert an assist exp of 70+ into a kill and the person who gets the 25 exp gets the assist ? This prevents kill steals and makes smaller mercs get more kills since most of the time they die in the duels due to low health!! IS this a good idea?
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hey man dont worry about it, spamming revivr is really helping the team.
just remember the next time they die they need you to get up and that is a lot of xp if you can get them in time…

kill steals? if a 1v2 happens, the other one hides waiting for the enemies to be softened and when his friend fails to kill him, the other can finish the enemy.

its called attrition. sometimes its good if youre facing enemy like fragger or fletcher like that, but sometimes if youre in an open area, you should gang up on enemies so they cant do attrition on our friends.

i usually used that tactic while playing total war
sending smaller units to their death and reducing the enemy total strength and crushes the main army when their weak using a more sizeable force.

in DB its bad for you to let your friends die like pez dispenser but sometimes its not bad to bait enemies who are more skilled than you into an attrition fight.

Attrition warfare is a military strategy in which a belligerent attempts to win a war by wearing down the enemy to the point of collapse through continuous losses in personnel and materiel.


(Herr_Hanz) #9

kill faster. or go with sniper and headshot everybody. or dont complain. i dont think anybody here is annoyed by killsteals.

EDIT: Remember, everytime you get a kill stolen your teammate might have actually saved your life


(BananaSlug) #10

kills dosent matter that much to bother, you get xp for damage done anyway, and if you are going for god-like and someone will steal your kill, there will be another person to kill :slight_smile:

i am only getting frustrated when i am going for 50kills bage and getting 47 kills and some really close assists, but still at the end it dosent matter


(DarkMatterMatt) #11

I’d love an assist count as kill thing (like others above me briefly mentioned). If you do at least 75% damage, you get the kill as well. The person who actually got the last hit (even if it was only 1 damage) also gets the kill. This way no-one whines about kill stealing. XP for combat badges might have to be reduced slightly to account for the more kills on average.


(ProfPlump) #12

The fact is that the amount of damage you dealt goes directly towards how much you get for your assist anyway, so in terms of XP on the scoreboard your effort is properly represented.

However, I don’t see why it shouldn’t be added into the killcount as your kill if you get a 80 assist counts as kill or whatever, as long as the XP numbers don’t change to overrepresent your ability and skill.


(Akash) #13

@FalC_16 @Jostabeere My aim is not to get exp but to get badges (Which gives u exp but still). The main reason is that i can be proud of my badge stats later on… i know its a small thing but that does give me happiness. And i do get every medic badge available easily…so i just wanted to proceed into kill badges with medics :smile:

@Herr_Hanz well i do see plenty of people who missed out on 50kill badges due to kill steals!
And i m not just talking about medics… I m just talking about kill steals with any merc so please stop focusing on the medic part i mentioned…

My biggest point being convert kill assist of 70exp+ into a kill…


(Sorotia) #14

[quote=“Herr_Hanz;189958”]kill faster. or go with sniper and headshot everybody. or dont complain. i dont think anybody here is annoyed by killsteals.

EDIT: Remember, everytime you get a kill stolen your teammate might have actually saved your life[/quote]

I am every now and then, but that is because sometimes people will literally walk in front of me, blocking my shots and finishing off the target I was working on. :stuck_out_tongue:


(pumpkinmeerkat) #15

Go for 50 assists badge :smile:

End of match stats need a major overhaul but badges shouldn’t be any easier to get IMO.


(Akash) #16

@pumpkinmeerkat hahaa thats damn impossible too :smile:


(Sterling) #17

So you not only want your enemy dead, but you also want him to die by your hand specifically. A medic. A medic that tries playing like an assault. Really? Dude, just freaking play medics like medics and assaults like assaults.


(Jostabeere) #18

After re-read[quote=“Akash;190074”]@FalC_16 @Jostabeere My aim is not to get exp but to get badges (Which gives u exp but still). The main reason is that i can be proud of my badge stats later on… i know its a small thing but that does give me happiness. And i do get every medic badge available easily…so i just wanted to proceed into kill badges with medics :smile:
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I could make a thread about not getting medic badges like The Doctor or Miracle Worker as an assault merc. My argument still stays. You want specific badges, play the class whose better suited for these badges.


(TheGreatHoundini) #19

No you only think it’s like that. Most of us scrubs were really trying to save your life! :’(
“Sparks! SPARKS??? SPAAAAAAARRRRRRKS!!” :stuck_out_tongue:


(ClemClem7) #20

I sometimes steal kills, but it’s not for stealing, it’s for killing the guy faster, and be sure a 2v1 is easier than a 1v1
This game is about objective, not tdm where the aim is the kill. If someone can help you to kill someone else, he must do it. At the end, you’re ranked by score, not by K/D.
When I see a medic going 30/2 but he never revived his teammates, all I think is “go play battlefield”, here medics are suppose to revive and heal, and sometimes get kills, but not expose too much themself. If you played planetside 2 or some games like this before, you will learn that a good medic is a living medic.all other players must protect yourself at the cist of their life.
If you want the godlike badge, just don’t blame people in saving your life or helping you killing someone, they do their job, only that.
Or go lone Wolf, as sawbonez or phoenix.