This forum is being infiltrated by will-ever-stay-noob's

(nUllSkillZ) #1

There’s something strange going on at level-designer.de.
They’ve posted a news that they will take the status of a user to post in the regular forums if they post questions related to themes that are covered by the available tutorials or if they spam.
These users then only have the right to post in one “kindergarden” forum and to read the regular forums.

The mods have given the following reasons for this:
In the last time the quantity of posts increased.
Whereas the quality of these posts decreased.

(thore) #2

well there’s nothing bad about a noob-zone.

i experienced this at some filesharing forum (hehe, we don’t do filesharing, do we?) that was divided
into 3 sections: newbie, advanced, normal. upper levels were allowed to post in lower level’s forums
but not the other way round. this has some advantages:

people really try not to throw out bs posts. people try to help each other as this is the only chance
to approve access to upper level forums. newbie1 isn’t that pissed about newbie2’s newbie question
as pro1 would be (because he heard that question more than 40 times). additionally newbie1 most
likely has the same problems newbie2 has… advanced thematics don’t interfere with basics… and
other way round.

if upper level members join lower level forums, they can guess what awaits them. if i enter newbie
section, guess what awaits me? right. newbie questions. this is somethin psychological: i’m not pissed
by those newbie questions because i know i come around them when entering newbie forums…

that’s nothing uncommon imo. our societies are divided into skills… basic skills at elementary school…
advanced skills require advanced schools / universities. guess how some high-tech engineers might
get /!"§$& by some 6 year old boy who’s wondering why 2*3=6. guess how this cute little boy is
confused by those engineers’ uber-advanced interference calculations…

the internet is the first place in the world that tries to mix up all different skill levels. how can we
expect this to perform very well?

(Oxygen - o2) #3

oh BTW what IS a dander? :confused:

(nUllSkillZ) #4

But who judges if someone has skills.
And what is the basis for this judgement.

In real life there are reports, references and certificates.

(Oxygen - o2) #5

all those prove is you used to know it, then u forget everything with a degree in ‘stupidity’

(Jaquboss) #6

Don´t you like em ?
That´s okay , everyone must begin to become better , but you think something else will-ever-stay-noob´s - you think that they will be noobs to their death or what , they have no experience with modding or mapping , maybe those are first their post in forums in their life , maybe they are not stupid , but lazy and want to get something that´s done already , and because they are noobs they don´t want to use search or read-me first …
I have read this topic very briefly , I only wanted to post my idea , so maybe someone said this already , or maked stupidity from it

(snypercore) #7

This discussion has raised many points which reaaly irritate me

1)i hate the word noob ppl who say noob are just lil kids or ppl who think thier better than others. unless ur giving instructions and it stands for beginer but as a “diss” its just sad and annoying.

2)if ppl ask u wot u think is a silly question think about the fact that their asking you because they see you as a more experienced person in wot ever feild. so instead of “blasting” them why not tell them y its a silly question and wot to do next time

3)maybe some ppl have already found a resoloution for their problem but have come to u guys for a second opinion

4)NOT EVERY ! IS AS TECHNICLY ADVANCED AS U!!!

(Tofuy) #8

i can see this thread as a club over my head for everything i DON’T know about radiant and mapping

-or-

as inspiration to not upset other mappers with my ignorance but rather to educate myself and eventualy others

(]UBC[ McNite) #9

I think it should be understood as an inspiration, yes. But as an inspiration to

a) read the sticky about the resources
b) make serious use of the search-button of this forum (I d say I only posted about 10% of my problems in this forum cuz for all the other 90% I found threads where someone else already had asked about this and the answers solved my prob too)
c) try to find out things using google
d) search for and read tutorials (if possible more than 1 for each topic)
e) build/script something, compile, have a look, build/script it another way, compile, look… (most of my mistakes with scripting were simply wrong spelling, and you can find out about that by yourself)
f) start threads with a title that tell the forum-reader about the subject of it (if u look at the recent threads there are SOME bad examples that didn’t care about this)
f’) precisely describe your problem in your first post: what did you do when it went wrong, what did you different this time compared to when it still worked fine, which tools do you use, what are your compile-settings etc., what did you already try to solve the problem
f’’) use the “edit” button… nobody likes to read a dozen posts of 1 person with 1 sentence in each post

Especially f) is important to get fast and competent help from the seniors in this forum, because they see you really try to find out and because they don’t need to post a dozen questions until they figured out what your problem is.