The Prospect of Dual Pistols


(acrobaticBudgie) #21

Wait, what? Why did no one tell me this before? :s

Joking aside, I could see it working. Maybe extend the reload times to account for holding one gun under your arm while reloading the other and swapping over. And instead of a grenade, the merc could release a flock of white doves that flap in the other team’s faces :wink:


(Grave_Knight) #22

Wait, what? Why did no one tell me this before? :s

Joking aside, I could see it working. Maybe extend the reload times to account for holding one gun under your arm while reloading the other and swapping over. And instead of a grenade, the merc could release a flock of white doves that flap in the other team’s faces ;)[/quote]
Well I’d imagine the reload time would be twice as long since you have to reload both guns. Probably have a system where it’ll reload the Secondary weapon first so you can switch to secondary in half the time.

As for the doves. Only if they deal minor damage and Fragger, when attacked, screams, “My eye! Why are they attacking my eye!?”


(StonedToker) #23

If they did dual pistols, they may as well make them fully auto pistols and give you throwing knives for a secondary, and instead of a melee, use an ability for melee, that lets you flip the pistols around and pistol whip some MoFos.

like this (at 50 sec for melee, 1:50 for auto pistol) https://youtu.be/tXOcXvqZlXI?t=50s


(Grave_Knight) #24

[quote=“StonedToker;91786”]If they did dual pistols, they may as well make them fully auto pistols and give you throwing knives for a secondary, and instead of a melee, use an ability for melee, that lets you flip the pistols around and pistol whip some MoFos.

like this (at 50 sec for melee, 1:50 for auto pistol) https://youtu.be/tXOcXvqZlXI?t=50s[/quote]I like this movie and all but you know how that power works? It’s basically aimbot. Either you do it like Wet were you can aim one pistol and the other one auto aims or you do it like Warframe and it spams murder.

No, I was thinking the significantly more tame Gun Fu as the aformentioned Hard Boiled.


(terminal) #25

Why do you have “No opinion” as an option? If they have no opinion they wouldn’t vote.

What you’re proposing here sounds like a less effective semi-auto weapon with no secondary.


(irishrOy) #26

Well in reality, dual wielding doesn’t really work since you’re more or less “hipfiring” and not iron-sighting.

Since hipfiring is damn accurate in D:B, akimbo-pistols could be potentially somewhat “OP”.

But actually I wouldbe all for it because of Roland Deschain from the Dark Tower-cycle by Stephen King :wink:
This guy more or less trained his whole life and is also some kind of prodigy with slightly superhuman speed, etc. :wink:

Anyhow, it could possibly be done, but it needs good and sharp balancing-tweaks.

And while we all know that the D:B-DEVs should be like this when it comes to carefully monitoring items and balancing them, before releasing them into the game,
the DEVs are actually like this


(Lumi) #27

[quote=“irishroy;92807”]But actually I wouldbe all for it because of Roland Deschain from the Dark Tower-cycle by Stephen King :wink:
This guy more or less trained his whole life and is also some kind of prodigy with slightly superhuman speed, etc. :wink:
[/quote]

That is the single most underrated book saga of all times!


(Grave_Knight) #28

[quote=“Lumi;92815”][quote=“irishroy;92807”]But actually I wouldbe all for it because of Roland Deschain from the Dark Tower-cycle by Stephen King :wink:
This guy more or less trained his whole life and is also some kind of prodigy with slightly superhuman speed, etc. :wink:
[/quote]
That is the single most underrated book saga of all times! [/quote]
Doesn’t help the first book reads like a bunch of short stories were haphazardly cobbled together with long winded descriptions that work in short stories but are tedious when presented in a novel. ಠ_ಠ

Also, pretty sure that Night Watch is more underrated (outside of the Eastern Europe and Russia at least).


(Lumi) #29

[quote="Grave Knight;92818]
Doesn’t help the first book reads like a bunch of short stories were haphazardly cobbled together with long winded descriptions that work in short stories but are tedious when presented in a novel. ಠ_ಠ

Also, pretty sure that Night Watch is more underrated (outside of the Eastern Europe and Russia at least).[/quote]

I didn’t get that impression.

and if something isn’t underrated somewhere in the world than that does make it less underrated than something else that is underrated everywhere, no?


(irishrOy) #30

[quote=“Grave Knight;92818”][quote=“Lumi;92815”][quote=“irishroy;92807”]But actually I wouldbe all for it because of Roland Deschain from the Dark Tower-cycle by Stephen King :wink:
This guy more or less trained his whole life and is also some kind of prodigy with slightly superhuman speed, etc. :wink:
[/quote]
That is the single most underrated book saga of all times! [/quote]
Doesn’t help the first book reads like a bunch of short stories were haphazardly cobbled together with long winded descriptions that work in short stories but are tedious when presented in a novel. ಠ_ಠ[/quote]

Well you actually got that right, since Sai King published the first “part” of the Tower-series in a weekly magazine as weekly short stories, as far as I remember.

So in fact, yes, The Gunslinger is as tough to chew as a shoe-sole, because it more or less is a book full of “short-stories”. It’s a Western in book-form, so to say. And because I love Westerns, I really enjoyed The Gunslinger :smiley:

However if you’ve made it to part 2 you survived the “worst” (But Wizard&Glass, part IV, was the toughest for me, personally. Somewhat monotonous and boring, we all know Roland survives and his love is tragic, etc. :wink: )

But let’s not get too much off-topic here ^^


(Grave_Knight) #31

[quote=“Lumi;92826”][quote="Grave Knight;92818]
Doesn’t help the first book reads like a bunch of short stories were haphazardly cobbled together with long winded descriptions that work in short stories but are tedious when presented in a novel. ಠ_ಠ

Also, pretty sure that Night Watch is more underrated (outside of the Eastern Europe and Russia at least).[/quote]I didn’t get that impression.

and if something isn’t underrated somewhere in the world than that does make it less underrated than something else that is underrated everywhere, no?[/quote]
Well. There is a comic series for Dark Tower which is pretty popular. I think they also put out a prequel series. All Night Watch has is two movies that remove the magic cause of the director (it’s about spell casters) that was very loosely based on the books.

And I was describing the book exactly as it is. Like Irishroy says above. It really should have been rewritten and I doubt I can trudge through those unnecessarily long descriptions. I might give the comic a try.[quote=“irishroy;92841”]And because I love Westerns, I really enjoyed The Gunslinger :D[/quote]Dude, you talk like a Western. XD[quote=“irishroy;92841”]But let’s not get too much off-topic here ^^[/quote][quote=“irishroy;92807”]Anyhow, it could possibly be done, but it needs good and sharp balancing-tweaks.[/quote]I think that is my main concern. Too much dps and it becomes too powerful, too much recoil or reload time and it becomes too weak. Increasing bloom could balance but could break it too.

Hm, though now that I think about it, and as someone mentions before, perhaps it’s best to think of it as one weapon instead of two that has it’s own clip but also drains ammo from the secondary weapon clip and a built in perk that increases secondary ammo (since the dual pistols would drain from secondary ammo instead of primary).


(Rosenkreuz) #32

Actually, I wouldn’t mind dual machine pistols. 40 bullets in each gun’s mag, crap accuracy, takes forever to reload, but turns anyone at close range into Swiss Cheese. I think it would make a better ability over a weapon obtainable in loadout cards, though.


(IrvingMoore) #33

Seems like a good idea, but it will have less accuracy though. But, it will get a cool inspection animation


(Drcipres) #34

From my experience from other fps dual pistols usually have a bad hip fire precission,and they arent able to aim


(Grave_Knight) #35

The “can’t aim” thing I always find weird. There are people who practice with dual pistols (primary trick shooters) and they seem to be able to aim just fine. Usually games that remove aim expect you to alternate between left and right click rather than have the game alternate fire for you. This is find if you’re using two different weapons, but at that point you might as well but running around with an AR or SMG with an under barrel shotgun (actually a gun with the m26 would be kind of cool, could see some mercs that don’t have a second ability being able to use them and have the shotgun trigger with the E key).