The K-121

(Mister__Wiggles) #1

So hopped on this morning to try out the new weapon balance and I found that fragger is now even more godlike with the lmg. Which begs the question, why does he need anymore of a buff considering how strong he was anyway.

(Ghosthree3) #2

It’s still not better than M4+Unshakable.

(Mister__Wiggles) #3

I disagree, the games I’ve played with him I’ve only used a default card with the lmg and I was getting at least 30 kills a game. With the m4 I get considerably less even though it’s an easy gun to handle.

(kittenishPond) #4

Both guns have advantages over the other. It really comes down to personal preference.

(Mister__Wiggles) #5

For damage you can’t beat the lmg, the only reason I would choose the m4 over it would be because it’s easier to handle. If you control the spread by tap firing then you can pop heads across the map. The amount of damage it can dish out is frightening, in fact I went head on with a rhino this morning with a lmg and out damaged him and I’m not the greatest player in the world.

(Ghosthree3) #6

No one is saying the M4 does more damage, the LMG is obviously better at killing. The reason the M4 loadout is so good is because Unshakable means you can’t be killed from full health from another Fragger’s nade. LMG loadouts don’t have this and therefore are at a huge disadvantage against other Fraggers.

(Mister__Wiggles) #7

Yeah fair point. I just don’t think that is a big enough advantage though, I have a gold fragger with the m4 but now I feel like he’s pretty pointless. Fragger good at killing of waves and the lmg is the best tool for that imo.

(Old Man) #8

That depends. I find it much easier to push and stay mobile with M4 than K-121. The LMG was to clunky and random for me. From I know it was nerfed few months back so this adjustment probably relates to how few players stuck to the LMG. I will play with rounds after the patch before I make my mind up. I will probably still prefer M4 or even BR-16 for their lower spread and better mobility while shooting.

(titaniumCrouton) #9

I personally HATE the m4. Idk why I just can’t use that gun. Give me the ak on skyhammer and the k-121 on fragger all day xD. Now the LMG is harder to use but once you get used to the recoil and how much to pull down it becomes pretty deadly.

Though you HAVE to use ironsights at med-long range, which might feel very different from other guns.

(Ghosthree3) #10

Yeah I don’t really like the LMG either. I know it deals great damage, it just feels like I miss too much with it. Where as the M4 gives me pretty damn consistent damage. I could probably learn to use the LMG but I really can’t be bothered as long as Unshakable is on M4.

(Gi.Am) #11

Havent tested it so far, but the buff is clearly targeted at leveling out the lmg vs. the M4 (augments aside) the LMG was king before and they nerfed the accuracy, suddenly everyone was picking the M4 over it. And now they scaled the accuracy nerf back a bit. Hopefully that makes the k121 viable again.

(titaniumCrouton) #12

I think it is, when combined with the aim punch reduction as well. You still gotta pull down a bit but landing shots is muuuuuch easier.

(Mister__Wiggles) #13

I’ve played with it some more and I feel that it’s not as powerful as I first thought. The accuracy while tap firing is really strong but I was surprised by how good it is in close quarters. I’ve consistently beat out smg’s (probably because they got nerfed). Fragger with the lmg is now probably the strongest class for all round play, strong weapon, good amount of health and grenades with really good killing potential. All this gets me excited for thunder when he finally gets released!

(watsyurdeal) #14

I can still see reasons to use the M4 and even BR 16 over the K 121, but it’s nice to have it back to being a viable weapon again.

(titaniumCrouton) #15

Same but I think this is how it should be. I see each weapon having it’s own use and play style which is the entire point i think.

(Harlot) #16

I’m not sure I’d call it viable. In my eyes, you really only use the best available weapon for each merc. That’s the M4 currently for Fragger, especially when you add in the Unshakable and Explodydendron perks.

I switched to the K-121 last night for a few games and was less than impressed. It really was nerfed into oblivion when compared to it’s prior iterations, which just goes to show that nerfing based on spread is never correct.

(Mr-Penguin) #17

I dunno, but this new and improved K-121 with 5% slower spread seems a little bit more consistent than before. It just feels that way to me.

(Harlot) #18

It’s definitely more consistent than before, but it’s still much, much less consistent than the M4.

(Mr-Penguin) #19

It’s definitely more consistent than before, but it’s still much, much less consistent than the M4.[/quote]
True, but I’m one of those few people that hate the M4 for some reason. I usually end up doing better with the K-121 than the M4.

(titaniumCrouton) #20

It’s definitely more consistent than before, but it’s still much, much less consistent than the M4.[/quote]
True, but I’m one of those few people that hate the M4 for some reason. I usually end up doing better with the K-121 than the M4.
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Exact same for me. Idk why but I cannot use the m4. It feels terrible and I do terrible. Give me a K-121 or a Ak-47 (w.e the hell it’s called in this game xP) and I’ll do perfectly fine though. Weird, I know but I just can’t use the damn m4 xD i am not good with lasers.