The eye of Sauron

(Izzy) #1

Simple question:

What is the Eye of Sauron (DemoRecSpectator) used for?

I have seen it quite frequently recently, does that mean I have a ring to destroy?

(neverplayseriou) #2

By clicking that eye u switch to spectator side lol

(Diosito) #3

Mirdautas Vras

Abbadon
Abaddon

(Izzy) #4

I was referring to the DemoRecSpectator, but thanks anyway :slight_smile:

(Diosito) #5

Maybe they are testing a new feauture, if I’m not wrong, the game “takes it” as an extra “player/slot”:

http://i.imgur.com/zEt8CAM.jpg

Objective 8vs8
17/16 players.

Just guessing :stuck_out_tongue: …

Abbadon
Abaddon

(Izzy) #6

This doesn’t count as a player and might not be the cause of the not-full server bugs.
I was thinking it was related to the NGS but I am not sure.

(Faraleth) #7

This is actually a beta feature currently being tested by Splash Damage. It’s been brushed over briefly in dev streams before, and they have stated it will be “useful for GM’s” and hinted towards it being a proper spectator recorder for public use (which would also be ideal for re-caps and comp events), however this was NOT 100% confirmed or anything, so take it with a grain of salt. All hints/signs point towards it though :slight_smile:

(Izzy) #8

Thanks a lot @Faraleth . The eye of Sauron is our friend in this episode then, great.

Now, What is a beta feature in beta game. Does that make it alpha? Philosophiraptor, where are you when we need you?

(Faraleth) #9

@Izzy haha, yeah… Never understood that. When they say “Private matches are in alpha stages”, I’m just like… “but the whole game is beta, isn’t it? So surely, you’re beta testing them. You don’t need to label specific features like that”, but… shrugs

Basically, I think it’s an easy way for them to communicate they are ‘testing’ something more closely than perhaps some other features - that, or it’s confined to internal beta testing, might be more accurate. xD

(Ctrix) #10

By definition, and this is not up for debate, a Beta is feature complete. If there’s parts still missing, that makes it an Alpha. So no, Dirty Bomb is not in Beta, it’s in Alpha. Calling it Beta just sells better.

(Faraleth) #11

By definition, yes. In reality, that definition was written over 60-70 years ago with the beginning of computer software, and over-time word definitions change, that’s the nature of language. :slight_smile:

Industry standard nowadays often refers to “beta” even when not feature-complete, it simply means a product is in a far more stable state than the alpha phase. The words “beta” and “alpha” are also very distorted for consumers, as they mean something very different to a lot of people than what they actually mean to developers - this is where the main confusion and definition distortion has arisen from.

I’m not saying this is good or bad, just explaining the change in word definition; but by today’s definition and market standards, it’s a beta.

(Ctrix) #12

No, I’m telling you it’s only called Beta because of marketing.

(Jostabeere) #13

So if a released game has a DLC which isn’t out yet, it makes the whole already released game a beta or an alpha because of the DLC?

(Faraleth) #14

Exactly the point I’m making, but apparently a definition written 70 years ago still stands for the modern market. :stuck_out_tongue: haha

(MarsRover) #15

Exactly the point I’m making, but apparently a definition written 70 years ago still stands for the modern market. :stuck_out_tongue: haha[/quote]

Definition is fine but doesn’t fit DB development model. The alpha/beta terms describing the whole product do not work outside the classic waterfall development model.

Edit:
OK, they may work somewhere else than waterfall. Please don’t make me search through my university notes :tongue:

(Nail) #16

alpha = first stage of development
beta = stage implemented but being developed further