The definition of an unbalancedz match

[kittz0r]

The second challenge we face is team composition . The data shows that lopsided teams ( too many of the same Merc, lack of diversity across the roles ) have a dramatically lower winning rate than those which have a more even spread of Mercs. Since team composition can change on the fly, it’s not something we can really factor into any balancing algorithm.

Merc Limitations… dunno how often i see Attackers with no Engineer etc and then they whine in Chat or make useless posts on Reddit and Co.
It doesn’t feel like an Objective based Game anymore, it’s just Deathmatch and thats is something you Guys have to change.

Also disable Vote Shuffle… People don’t play Engineer when needed but they can spam Shuffles, bad habit you endorse.

The final struggle we have is that player skill varies dramatically from Merc to Merc . Someone who kicks ass with Fragger might decide to try Sparks for the first time and not do so well. Again, as switching Mercs is something that can occur at any point during the match, it’s not something we can really factor into any balancing algorithm.

If we only had a Practice Range with Bots…

Overall match balance ( the difference between two teams at the end of the match ) is something we measure on a daily basis. We’ve made changes to the algorithm that has improved things over the years, but nothing has had as big of an impact as player base size . The more people we have playing, the far easier it is to get players of closer skill in the same match, which makes balancing the teams so much easier.

Hm maybe don’t release broken Crap, Communicate and start to listen to Feedback Players give for 5 Years.

Infos since People don’t understand. When i talk about “you” i mean SD/DB Team and not 1 single Person, sad enough that i have to clarify this.

[ASD]

@Smooth : Then why there isn’t 2 kinds of servers? Max level 50 and Min level 50?

there are comunity servers … rent 2 and make on max level 50 and the other min level 50

but in the current state I would not recommend to rent this lagi shit

[teflonlove]

but in the current state I would not recommend to rent this lagi shit

I thought the community servers always were fine even when all other were broken because they used a different provider?

[Begin2018]

there are comunity servers … rent 2 and make on max level 75 and the other min level 75

No, renting server will solve nothing. It should be the default on every pub servers. Min 75 or max 75, nothing else.

[Lord_Coctus]

Why change it 75? I thought you said 50

[Begin2018]

Why change it 75? I thought you said 50

Generally though, beyond Level 20 ( under the old levelling system - so around Level 50 now ) things did plateau.

Because I took 50 here but I watched the curve again, and it’s more old level 25 and it’s more today’s level 75 than 50 (75-100).

[kopyright]

Directly factoring in player communication is a good idea but not something that’s guaranteed, especially since people do use out of game chat and also because using voice chat in previous games doesn’t mean you’ll use it in the current match.

It’s not like my aim suddenly improves or Fragger nades don’t hit me anymore when using voice chat, either.

[kittz0r]

Just joined a random Game on Dockyard, we as Attackers had literally 4-5 Engineers in the Team which Players didn’t use and when they picked them they didn’t do the Objective. I repaired the EV as Guardian.

Then my Team jumped on me for being useless and shit and claimed i played Sniper even though i don’t even have a Sniper in my Squad or we had one in the Team. In the Screen you can see that i have Guardian, Sky and Javelin.

Sorry to say that but Players are actually stupid and don’t understand the Game one single bit. the 6 Minutes of this Game already triggered so much that i basically could delete DB once more and call it a day, what i probably should finally do.

Oh yea, most of the Players with an Engineer left the Game and People did the usual thing… unbalanced blabla while they go 1/30

I get it that these Peeps are most likely new and shit but they didn’t play the Tutorial or paid any attention during it or just left it.

[ASD]

I thought the community servers always were fine even when all other were broken because they used a different provider?

nop they dont

Bad server

Hi, I post here… I know its wron but so far there is no “server” forum… and as its not working so good i post here in the bug section I have now one of the comunity server its alot of fun… but I have a big issue! after some time running the server gets realy bad… first only the yellow bad connection symbol… then orange and some lags until it gets red and lag like hell and everyone search for better server multiplay switched already to differen server but its the same … sometimes after some…

and it is still not fixed… suddenly lag starts for all players… even if the server is autorestarted every 12h

[Mustang]

Thread cleaned, no need to get into a slinging match of who hates who more please, take it to PM if you must, lets try to keep it to the thread topic chaps.

[Xenithos]

Now that the server issues have been resolved, we’re seeing a slow recovery in player numbers, which will gradually improve things here.

That’s great to hear!
I nearly skipped posting something in this thread again but I wanted you to know just how awesome it was to see this communication from you guys! I was aware of most of it and it’s been a long shared community belief that individual player skill (or “levels don’t matter after x#”) plateau’d around level 20-25 of the old leveling scheme but you directly sharing this information and the rest in such a clear-cut way is the kind of communication I’d love to see more often! Well done! Thanks!

[Begin2018]

Now that the server issues have been resolved, we’re seeing a slow recovery in player numbers, which will gradually improve things here.

What recovery are you talking about?? …

You’ll recover nothing until you make all servers min level 75 and max level 75. Merging new and old player is killing the game since years now. When will you understand this? When player base reach 0?

[K1X455]

There are still issues of hit registration.

Do I need to make another video?

[K1X455]

50% is a tad too big to be a factor.

A better method is by bracketing, considering that SD is always aiming for higher player participation (which can even be tuned per region given low player population of DB).

[HadronZodiac]

On a realisitic note, rng is always bad and should never be trusted

[HadronZodiac]

this is the def of an unbalanced match actually

[geefunkster]

[Lord_Coctus]

Good, you had Proxy in your squad, no reason to punish more teamates.

[HadronZodiac]

Only noobs put proxy mines next to their damn teammates, i hate when people do that…

[Lord_Coctus]

Its statistically proven somewhere that Proxys are 5x less likely to play the objective than other mercs.