Teasing with event rewards...

(almondFlower) #1

… are very bad for the game.

You can’t just throw in: “Hey there is this cool LIMITED edition card you can farm in 3 days, come and play with us!”

What’s funny is the Devs are probably home with a smile on their damn face thinking “Yeah fellas, we gave something really cool to the community”.

While in reality, they just gave anger, annoyance, and the chance some ppl will get so upset they will quit or never purchase anything again.

I can only speak for myself. But I’ve been playing in shifts with my wife from the first minute the event started. Only taking break for food,restroom,bath and sleep… (I know, why sleep when I can farm more -_-)

Think I can safely say that after MANY of us spent 30++++ hours farming, and only gaining the Trash Case (hundreds of them)… Let’s just say this part of the community starts to feel that the game isn’t fun anymore.

Also seeing how some1 random fella, who doesn’t even had ANY idea that we even have an event comes on the forums and yell “Derp I got 4 CW Event cases praise the RNGesus” <— Fuck him and Fuck the RNG

TL;DR: this event, in this form does more harm to the game than good.

PS.: Devs, please don’t kid yourself. This event isn’t fun or rewarding. It’s a tease… a spit in the eye for the community whos been loyal for more then a year now.

(Lumi) #2

I think the base feeling from the devs was to give us all the chance to get at least one through the regular cases with 0.3%. Since that didn’t happen, due to it being ridiculously low, they came up with this idea to give us a chance at getting one.

I agree with you that this is pretty lame. As they could just have given one away as a login treat instead of the expert cases. But considering the fact that all started idiotically since the 0.3% drop chance idea, this is better than nothing.

I might be biased, since I got one card after playing for 4h40min, but then again have been playing pretty much yesterday all day and nothing…

In my opinion next time they do something like this, they would get much more money if they’d sell one of those guaranteed cases for 1 euro. I would have bought a bunch of them and I know of many who would have too.

(almondFlower) #3

@Lumi “I might be biased, since I got one card after playing for 4h40min, but then again have been playing pretty much yesterday all day and nothing…”

Yes you are biased. I’m more objective on the “matter”. Even if I happen to get 1, I still know this event is a Fuckin crap and not fair with the playerbase… and yes, I woudl still be here on forums complaining about this crap.

(THE_PRESIDENT) #4

yes, theyre the worst devs

(Jostabeere) #5

Another thread where people are upset about a goddamn FREE! Event possibility?
Stop spamming this shit, seriously.

@Lumi People spent 34€/$ for a guaranteed CW case. 35€/$!!! DAMN 35€/$! It won’t be fair if they would give out one for free for Everyone. So a low drop-rate is best solution here.
There’s an old proverb: If you give him a finger, he wants a whole arm" And that’s what happened. SD was nice enough to give us a CHANCE on CW cards, but now people who more likely never spent a single dime on this game want more and more and spam the forum with this “devs are bad! I grinded 2 days and got nothing! I want a case which cost 35€/$ for free!!!” shit.
This is so ridicuous and bold and if I was SD I would limit all upcoming events to people who have spend a fixed amount of money on the game.

(almondFlower) #6

[quote=“Jostabeere;116316”]Another thread where people are upset about a goddamn FREE! Event possibility?
Stop spamming this shit, seriously.[/quote]

Stop reading the thread if you don’t have anything constructive to add to it.

(cornJester) #7

To be honest the expert cases should’ve just been limited edition cases and the random drop idea should’ve been scrapped. That way everyone gets some, not some getting a few and others getting none.

(almondFlower) #8

@Jostabeere

[quote=“Jostabeere;116316”]Another thread where people are upset about a goddamn FREE! Event possibility?
Stop spamming this shit, seriously.

@Lumi People spent 34€/$ for a guaranteed CW case. 35€/$!!! DAMN 35€/$! It won’t be fair if they would give out one for free for Everyone. So a low drop-rate is best solution here.
There’s an old proverb: If you give him a finger, he wants a whole arm" And that’s what happened. SD was nice enough to give us a CHANCE on CW cards, but now people who more likely never spent a single dime on this game want more and more and spam the forum with this “devs are bad! I grinded 2 days and got nothing! I want a case which cost 35€/$ for free!!!” shit.
This is so ridicuous and bold and if I was SD I would limit all upcoming events to people who have spend a fixed amount of money on the game.[/quote]

Ppl didn’t spent 35 euro for 1 CW event case. They spent 35 euro for 10 case + 1 CW event case. which was a bonus. You didn’t paid a penny for that CW event case.

“This is so ridicuous and bold and if I was SD I would limit all upcoming events to people who have spend a fixed amount of money on the game.”

^^Do that and they might aswell close the game.

“I want a case which cost 35€/$ for free!!!”" <-- Listen bud. You might be delusional. You really think farming 30/40+++ hours is free? Are you really that silly?

Let me explain it to you so even you can understand it.

1: Free players are content.

2: Content what attracts ppl

3: If there are NO content / players, ppl who play wont buy stuff since the game is empty.

4: if the game is empty, it will die

No matter how special snowflake you think you are because you spent money…
Thing is “you” wouldn’t be able to play without “us”. It goes the same way for us. No need to look down on your “content”.

I felt uncomfortable when you were so bold to call 30/40+++ hours of playtime free. You obviously don’t value your time.

(Jostabeere) #9

[quote=“almondFlower;116337”]You really think farming 30/40+++ hours is free? Are you really that silly?

I felt uncomfortable when you were so bold to call 30/40+++ hours of playtime free. You obviously don’t value your time.[/quote]

It’s your free-time and not a damn job. You didn’t pay a single cent, you just played the game you would normally do, too.

Also stop referring Skins on a bronze loadout as “content” Your gameplay you “grinded” for 40 hrs was the content.

(almondFlower) #10

@Jostabeere Farming is not content. 40 hours of farming is not content either. BUT me farming 40+ hours is content for EVERY1 else. To put it simple for you, I am the content, not the time I invest. The time I invest in the game is money for the devs.

Also. Don’t make assumptions that I do this in my free time or not. In my case? It’s not in my free time.

(N8o) #11

I have to say I agree with @Jostabeere on this one

You guys are too caught up in this silly card business. You are playing a game that you enjoy, it’s not a grind. The cards are simply a side bonus if you are lucky enough to get one.

(almondFlower) #12

@Haise http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/bonus

Bonus:

“A sum of money added to a person’s wages as a reward for good performance”

Replace “money” in the sentence with Case and you’ll see it’s not a bonus.

This scenario is more like “If you walk on the street you might find a random amount of money dropped on the street”

(Jostabeere) #13

[quote=“almondFlower;116345”]@Jostabeere Farming is not content. 40 hours of farming is not content either. BUT me farming 40+ hours is content for EVERY1 else. To put it simple for you, I am the content, not the time I invest. The time I invest in the game is money for the devs.

Also. Don’t make assumptions that I do this in my free time or not. In my case? It’s not in my free time.[/quote]

Please inform yourself about things you write online next time.

Content itself is what the end-user derives value from. Thus, “content” can refer to the information provided through the medium, the way in which the information was presented, as well as the added features included in the medium in which that information was delivered. The medium however, provides little to no value to the end-user without the information and experiences that make up the content.

A card ain’t content without the experience of playing the game.

And because I can, I’ll add a sarcastic note to my post:

Here is a card I gift you. I don’t use him, he’s all yours, do what you want with this card.

http://puu.sh/lCCyS/1dc9837c56.jpg

Much content, eh?

P.S. You’re the end-user and not content in any way.

P.P.S. Since when do devs get any money just because you spend time ingame? You have so spend any money if devs should get any money. They don’t magically get a pocket full of money because you just play lol.

(N8o) #14

[quote=“almondFlower;116348”]@Haise http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/bonus

Bonus:

“A sum of money added to a person’s wages as a reward for good performance”

Replace “money” in the sentence with Case and you’ll see it’s not a bonus.

This scenario is more like “If you walk on the street you might find a random amount of money dropped on the street”[/quote]

You’re missing the point here. These cards don’t really matter in the end. It’s just like the rarities. You’re not deriving anything else out of the content by having a cobalt card. It’s just a cool treat on the side if you’re lucky enough to get one. These cards aren’t content.

(almondFlower) #15

@Jostabeere Now you are just being a jerk :smiley: Obviously I didnt talked in my post you replied to about cards. Stop putting words in my mouth. I said “I am the content, not the time I invest”

If we can agree on that I am NOT a card… then your “badass” quote was useless.

“P.P.S. Since when do devs get any money just because you spend time ingame? You have so spend any money if devs should get any money. They don’t magically get a pocket full of money because you just play lol.”

^Not gonna repeat myself. Already explained the process of it. Can’t explain it more simply so even you can understand. Ask some1 who can explain it to you.

@Haise Yep. A cool rarity which is limited time. In an event, which is also limited. Played many games before… But usually events have somekind of reward, a gift, an appreciation from the devs for participating and making them more money by floodign the servers.

It’s the first time I see this amount of greed from a developer.

(Jostabeere) #16

[quote=“almondFlower;116353”]

@Haise Yep. A cool rarity which is limited time. In an event, which is also limited. Played many games before… But usually events have somekind of reward, a gift, an appreciation from the devs for participating and making them more money by floodign the servers.

It’s the first time I see this amount of greed from a developer.[/quote]

Yeah. They’re greedy when they’re giving out free stuff. Wow, you just achieved a whole new level of being a massive dick.

I say it again: If the gameplay itself doesn’t satisfy you and you need shiny bling-bling, unlocks, levels or whatsoever to get any motivation in a game you should enjoy for the GAME. PLAY., a Call of Duty is the perfect game for you. A ton of content you pay for only gets unlocked if you grind. You will love it :smiley:

P.S. If you want such thing so badly, Spend money and buy the bundle with a safe card in it. Problem solver. But stop mock around if you haven’t paid a single dime.

(almondFlower) #17

@Jostabeere say what you want :slight_smile: Steam charts on monday will talk instead of me. Ppl are angry. Just ask them in game. Angry people don’t enjoy the game. If they don’t enjoy it… well they will leave. I know you will post “let them leave/who needs those cry babies”. Actually, you need them. So you can show off your skins to some1, and to be able to actually play with some1 :3

As I said… Monday will be a glorious day and a huge slap in the face for the devs. I guess this is the test event about how far they can go with their blatant money grab.

(Daergar) #18

Who is defending a 0.3% chance of getting the major reward from a hyped event? If we discount the odds of getting an actually viable card.

The value of said reward is very debatable, though much less so than this god damn randomly decided crap. SD really needs to take an updated course on monetization, maybe even realize that this entire card system is flawed.

(almondFlower) #19

[quote=“Daergar;116359”]Who is defending a 0.3% chance of getting the major reward from a hyped event? If we discount the odds of getting an actually viable card.

The value of said reward is very debatable, though much less so than this god damn randomly decided crap. SD really needs to take an updated course on monetization, maybe even realize that this entire card system is flawed.[/quote]

Coming from the same devs who made Brink. You know that game which shutdown soon after release because well… let’s face it. It failed. If they don’t very soon change their minds about their monetization and the way they are handling it’s players, Dirty Bomb might be the Brink 2.0

(servuskal) #20

Really? So double credit event, massive store discounts and the chances for a 100% CW case arent enough for you? In most F2P games you dont even get the chance to aquire the new exlusive skins as a F2P player. Why would anyone want to spend 35€ if everyone would get a guaranteed CW loadout? You do realize Splashdamage isnt the salvation army and instead needs to make money, right?