Team-Shuffle should be automatic.

(Lumi) #21

[quote=“triteTongs;31458”]Here are my reasons I click NO:

  • There is 30 seconds left in the game
  • I have a “win” mission to do.

This holds true with the last game I just played… I just lost 5 games in a row and I finally get a winning team to my mission done. Why would I ever vote yes in that situation?
[/quote]

I totally get your point of view, which is why to me “win” based missions are a horrible idea, as they almost never depend on you alone. When I play by myself it just comes down to luck if I do the mission or not, but if I have my teammate online then it gets much easier to achieve it. In the event of a player inbalance, giving a switching player an automatic win as a compensation, then there would be no more shuffle refusal and unbalance. The current system just forces players to take every measure to get an easy win. And that’s not right. I miss the pre mission times when everyone just wanted a game that was as balanced as possible to just have a fun competitive game. Now, it’s all about the win, to get that much desired credit.

(Resine) #22

Team shuffle is really bad thing. Say that i play with only 1 friend and we are in team A, we made a total time of 4’30. Now someones presses shuffle and we, or just i have to beat that time in order to win…

(wackyDesert) #23

Just played 4 games in a row (in different servers) where the average scores were 15k vs 1k and the losing team could barely get out of spawn or had no idea what the objective was. What is the fun in that?

(elegantRoyalty) #24

Also it should still maintain friends together. The game would need a “team/squad” option.[/quote]
nah if they want to play together theres a mode for that. odds are them stacking the team is the reason the games gone to shite in the first place.
theres a discussion ont hat here.
http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/12588/party-system-for-non-competitive#latest

Im for auto swapping but theres a few issues to consider/fix. its not really fair mid match unless people getting tossed onto the loosing side get credited, ive refused a few shuffles because i need to get wins for a mission and it kinda sucks.

need to disable the manual team change options , lots of pre mades exploit it to stay together on the pub servers , start watching the top 3 players on the winning team the amount of times they shuffle to stay together after the server does a team shuffle is shocking, im sure there not all pre mades lot of pussies just looking for easy wins to.

(Az*) #25

Get used to it my friend, nearly every pub game is like that. I have never, ever in my life seen a game where so many new players get spawn raped so bad they quit and vow never to play the game. I think the community is quite toxic already in this game and its only a beta. Such a shame as i love it but always end up playing against 1-2 players as half leave.

I complained to my team mates earlier and was kicked. it’s quite bizarre.

(triteTongs) #26

Here’s the deal:

You introduce automatic team-balance then you also have to introduce pub-level lobby systems where your friends won’t get broken up. Comp is fine and all, but sometimes you just want to pub quicker objective games with a friend or two.

This was something that bugged the hell out of me in Battlefield. It was incredibly difficult just to play with another player since half the time you got teamswitched out of the blue.

Not to mention I would be absolutely PISSED if i got team switched while I was trying to complete a “win an objective” mission. I’m sure you would be pissed too. It’s just not fair to the players who actually stay.

(Noble_One) #27

[quote=“sinKrin;31055”]The problem is with automatic shuffling in-game it will punish the better players. What happens if you’re in a match until near the end on the winning side only to be swapped over and lose in the dying seconds.

Thankfully the matches are pretty short. I’ve swapped over myself a few times to help out as I’d rather lose a close game with equal sides than stomp over another team. I don’t find that enjoyable.[/quote]

i had this happen to me in tribes ascended (hi rez game) and instantly uninstalled because of it. IMO any shuffling should happen only in the pre game lobby and/or during the voting before it shows the objective of the match.

(Dirmagnos) #28

Auto-balance feature is a must in pub games.
Its a sad and pathetic sight when one team just rolls over another and on top of that taunts losing team who are usually also outnumbered.
And then the same “pros” all start raging and quit when couple of good players join in or teams are rebalanced after game end, raging and quitting, like sissies that they are.
There should be certain criterias that trigger shuffle, like difference in total points per team or number of players in each team.