Taking the game seriously?

(farmakoxeris.exe) #1

Well day after day the game is becoming really unplayable at pubs and the bad thing is that it’s not the games fault at 80% of the circumstances. Playing everyday has become a real struggle… It has been a long time since the game became open for everyone but i don’t see even the slightest gamesense or teamplay. (talking about pubs, cause at scrims its a great game!). I want to ask WHY at some questions that i am facing daily and i would really like to find so answers…

  1. Why players are choosing to play the merc they like or they have a fancy loadout instead of choosing the actual merc they want to play?? Cause lets face it most of the players out there are not playing their role, i’m not saying that they are not good, i say that they are not doing their ‘‘job’’
  2. Why they keep turning every single game into one endless deathmatch?? Gamemodes are now transformed Objective=Deathmatch with some OBJstacles, Stopwatch= 2 rounds of that kind of deathmatch and our new one Execution=Run around like morons to kill them all, oooo there is a bomb also
  3. Why the don’t use walljumps?
  4. Why, with the bomb planted, either no one is defusing or millions of people do???
  5. Why the last one that reaches the objectives (YES the game has objectives!) is the objective specialist?
  6. Why zero or tons of them are fixing the EV at the wrong time?
  7. Why they keep stacked at one part of the map, killing without finishing each other for days? (ok at dome we don’t have an option!)
  8. Why there is not ‘‘correct’’ or productive use of the special abilities?

Well i’m so frustrated and there are sooooo many wrong things to mention out, but i will sum up…
Since it is a heavily teambased game, thinking before acting would be perfect!
IMO game is great, well there is always way to become better, but the problem is not the game itself is the players! No offence but the majority does not have the slightest idea of wtf is going on or wtf they are doing

RUNNING, JUMPING, FIRING, KILLING, DYING, RESPAWN… and it goes on and on… like a pure deathmatch!

(Szakalot) #2

we just need a method to get out of the newb-zone and be able to play with equally skilled players. Minlvl10 servers were a good start but are obviously not enough, especially now with all those new lvl10 players who are pretty clueless.

so again: community-rented servers

(Daergar) #3

I miss public matches when the game had some sort of entry barrier. Now it’s just pure rubbish, and the sad comments like “one man army” and “carry” are flung around. Wouldn’t be so bad if my playtime, ie level, was hideable.

I also greatly enjoy that the teams are not decided until after the merc selection ends. For those of us who actually play to win, it does help being allowed to tailor our merc roster for attacker/defender/map/team composition.

I realize we’re just supposed to click mouse one, jump around like mad and charge headlong at the enemy like lemmings, while caring what color outfit we have on. I can try to resist though!

Play execution and pretend you’re playing a single player game with sub-par AI companions. It alleviates the stress.

(farmakoxeris.exe) #4

lvl means nothing at this game, pure cosmetic. the problem is the the community so far cares more about the skins and the loadouts. U can see tons of threads, answers, questions about loadout cards, aesthetics but not so many threads on how to improve the game…

(yusayu) #5

People keep saying that but in reality you can feel the difference between a Level 5 and a Level 25 (if he got his level legitimately).

I really don’t think that pubs are the place for you to look for serious matches. Not with half the matches being short one player and thus imbalanced, everyone being able to drop in and out without penalty and people trying out their new merc or just fooling around. This is like saying ‘there i no teamplay in CS:GO casual games’.

I think the root of the problem is that playing ranked just makes zero to no sense atm. You either get rekt by a stack, you stomp them or they stomp you.

(watsyurdeal) #6

Fact is, you can’t do shit about others, but you can do something about you, so instead of bitching just do what you can on your part. That’s what I do.

(farmakoxeris.exe) #7

well lvls are exprsing the amount of time that u have played lets say… still they are not important. i was lvl5 also and i didn’t do those silly mistakes.

everyone sais that balance is not goo but when a team has more players no one is changing team to help the balance! so again not games fault, players!

so public HAS to be unskilled and deathmatch?

if u know what are u doing out there competive is really great. as @random said:You either get rekt by a stack, you stomp them or they stomp you. AGAIN players fault, simple solution learn to play!

(BloodyGustav) #8

Funny thing, i was playing with a Lv25 yesterday, that called me the worst Lv17 ever, he with the most points on our team and me the least, he played Fragger non-stop always going to the same spots, me Bushwhacker trying to clear the plant point 90% of the time alone because the rest of our team was usual dead.

He just camped and farmed kills and had like 28/12Kd at the end , i had 23/22Kd.
And for some reason he had 2x more points then me?

(watsyurdeal) #9

[quote=“BloodyGustav;102396”]Funny thing, i was playing with a Lv25 yesterday, that called me the worst Lv17 ever, he with the most points on our team and me the least, he played Fragger non-stop always going to the same spots, me Bushwhacker trying to clear the plant point 90% of the time alone because the rest of our team was usual dead.

He just camped and farmed kills and had like 28/12Kd at the end , i had 23/22Kd.
And for some reason he had 2x more points then me?

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I wouldn’t worry about those kind of players, they have a huge ego problem. Just ignore them.

(M4st0d0n) #10

You are just a bit too old to take it seriously. Most of them pubies dont even have pubes.

(Remedica) #11

Biggest thing giving me headaches in this game is trying to figure out what these people are thinking, or are they thinking at all :dizzy:
I have to agree with the OP, most of the matches it just feels like you are there just to carry people who doesn’t give flying fucks about the objective or don’t understand it (even tho the objective is explained in the beginning of every match)
Battle sense is a disappearing resource.
What also makes me sad is lack of communication nowadays, people used to communicate more, now barely anybody actually says anything.

(Szakalot) #12

[quote=“BloodyGustav;102396”]Funny thing, i was playing with a Lv25 yesterday, that called me the worst Lv17 ever, he with the most points on our team and me the least, he played Fragger non-stop always going to the same spots, me Bushwhacker trying to clear the plant point 90% of the time alone because the rest of our team was usual dead.

He just camped and farmed kills and had like 28/12Kd at the end , i had 23/22Kd.
And for some reason he had 2x more points then me?

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usually you get a lot of points for multikill badges

(farmakoxeris.exe) #13

@Remedlca i can feel u… everyday struggle is real

p.s they are not thinking! at all!

(n-x) #14

People play to get 500 credits for first Obj, SW, Exe, first win.
People play to get their missions.
People play to test out mercs.
People play missions with mercs in their squad just to get the mission done.
People want to get a high score otherwise they get l2p comments in chat
People want to check out their new/best load out.
and so on.

The problem is, that there is so much stuff in DB to keep people playing that actually improving is not a priority. Just to get the first 2 points on my list can already take 1-2 hours. Thats 1-2 hours you have someone in game, who has other goals then to actually win.

(SereneFlight) #15

I don’t take games too seriously but after nothing but 3 minute matches, it gets pretty frustrating because it would be nice to spend more than half of the time in a fucking lobby…

(Remedica) #16

[quote=“Kelben;102422”]People play to get 500 credits for first Obj, SW, Exe, first win.
People play to get their missions.
People play to test out mercs.
People play missions with mercs in their squad just to get the mission done.
People want to get a high score otherwise they get l2p comments in chat
People want to check out their new/best load out.
and so on.

The problem is, that there is so much stuff in DB to keep people playing that actually improving is not a priority. Just to get the first 2 points on my list can already take 1-2 hours. Thats 1-2 hours you have someone in game, who has other goals then to actually win.
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  1. Indeed, you need to win the match to get the first win
  2. But what is stopping you playing the objects at the same time?
  3. Valid point, but why you can’t test how they support the actual object?
  4. Still don’t see why you wouldn’t be able to play with the team and do the obj
  5. You can easily get high score by being in the right place and doing the obj
  6. Why checking out loadouts is stopping you from playing the game?

There’s tons of things to do, that’s true, but none of the missions you get are not missions that would somehow block you from playing for the obj or anything like that.
I might have misunderstood you point here, but I just don’t see any reason what would make you not to play the objective.

(Remedica) #17

I think all the missions are supporting you to do the objectives.
Get support xp > Help teammates
Get game mode xp > Do objectives
First win games > Do the best you can to win

There’s few examples, so far I haven’t seen missions like:

Get most kills
Camp in the corner at first spawn till its over
Play 10 rounds with skyhammer without sharing a single ammopack

Just saying … :confused:

(n-x) #18

[quote=“Remedica;102433”][quote=“Kelben;102422”]People play to get 500 credits for first Obj, SW, Exe, first win.
People play to get their missions.
People play to test out mercs.
People play missions with mercs in their squad just to get the mission done.
People want to get a high score otherwise they get l2p comments in chat
People want to check out their new/best load out.
and so on.

The problem is, that there is so much stuff in DB to keep people playing that actually improving is not a priority. Just to get the first 2 points on my list can already take 1-2 hours. Thats 1-2 hours you have someone in game, who has other goals then to actually win.
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  1. Indeed, you need to win the match to get the first win
  2. But what is stopping you playing the objects at the same time?
  3. Valid point, but why you can’t test how they support the actual object?
  4. Still don’t see why you wouldn’t be able to play with the team and do the obj
  5. You can easily get high score by being in the right place and doing the obj
  6. Why checking out loadouts is stopping you from playing the game?

There’s tons of things to do, that’s true, but none of the missions you get are not missions that would somehow block you from playing for the obj or anything like that.
I might have misunderstood you point here, but I just don’t see any reason what would make you not to play the objective.[/quote]

What I meant with my post is not to be seen as a 100% black and white thing, but I think all those things sidetrack from playing to improve and play a necesary role.

Just as example. There are already 2 healers in your team, somebody needs support points for a mission. Now you have 3 healers.

It’s already late and you need those last few combat points for your 1000 credits mission. Are you taking a much needed healer or are you going to take your Fragger?

If you take for example 1on1 Deathmatch in the old shooters, there was only one goal. Be better then your opponent. So you could focus 100% on that. In DB there are so many other things to do, that for some people improving (and not only for your own sake, but for the sake of the team) is not the 100% focus anymore.

As someone else mentioned above. Look at the forum. How much posts are about load out cards, getting new eye candy and so on and how many are really about strategy, how to improve your aim. what’s a good team for map x…

Somebody in a discussion once said. “trading and collecting load outs is a big part of the game”.

And that about a game that should be about teamplay, reaction, map knowledge, movement skills, aim and so on and so on.

(yusayu) #19

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(ThatRandomGuy) #20

You know some of us feels safer playing medics…

Personally i am one of those guys who would still pick a medic even if there are 2 medics in team, 2 medics who are not capable of taking care of the team or me or my mates… I am forced to take medic at this case, but for a 3rd person it would look like i am a bad team player. In reality ? I am not a bad player, i am just frustrated at idiotic medics, WHICH i have been seeing a LOT lately !