Suggestion to help keep servers clean


(ZenVirZan) #1

Hey guys,
I really think Nexon should look into approaching community members or having some sort of system for appointing game moderators. Not moderators in the MMO sense, where they are basically admins, just the ability to have a hotline straight to Nexon, or at the very least a higher priority report function. Perhaps community moderator would be a better term for it?

Now before you freak out and say it’s unfair, just hang on a minute.

Every now and then a new aimbotter sets up and screws with our servers (and I’d say it’s pretty safe to assume everywhere else is the same), and it usually takes at least a week before they’re banned. It’s good that they do get banned, yes, but in a F2P game, if you’re not pulling these bans off quickly, they’ll have their fun and just make a new account to do it again.

The reason I bring this up is there’s a new player cheating on our servers, but rather than just toggling on and clearing the entire enemy team, they’re doing it only when already facing someone.
There are some absolutely incredible players in our community, above and beyond anything I myself could achieve. But I (along with all the sane players in the server at the time) can clearly tell they’re cheating. Perfect trailing clear as day. Even the pros don’t have pixel perfect trailing with the M4. And this user has been doing it for the last week, claiming they’re not cheating, and then just blatantly admitting it a second after. It’s got all the usual red flags: private profile, only level 5 (when I first encountered them, obviously ranked up pretty quickly since), minimal game sense, etc.

I’m not requesting that Nexon give people admin powers like kicking and banning. I’m just saying I really think they should appoint some members from each region that people can talk to to have their reports streamlined. I hear about cheaters all the time, and I wish I was able to talk to someone who had some sort of power, but there is no one to turn to.

All we can do is just sit and wait, and all the while they’re getting exactly what they wanted.

I’m aware this would work better in some regions than in others; most of the experienced players in Australia know one another, so we’d always be able to have direct contact to one of these new ‘mods’ at basically any time. For larger communities, I’m sure there would be ways to get it to work there as well.


(GatoCommodore) #2

i vote for @THUNDA to be Asian Region member server admin


(The_N00Ba) #3

I don’t know if Nexon would do that. it would be cool if they did though. I think groups in each region good gather together themselves though. They could work together to gather evidence and possibly submit it all at once instead of from multiple sources.

just a thought I have been having. :slight_smile:


(BananaSlug) #4

not bad idea, but probably wont happen


(Nail) #5

Nexon runs both the servers and the anti cheat, it would be up to them


(ZenVirZan) #6

I’m not sure why I kept writing SD when I play so many Nexon-published games.
Cheers, I’ll edit the post.


(K1X455) #7

did you know what e and pi said to each other?

e:“Be r a t i o n a l”
pi:“Get r e a l”

A manual method of reporting is hardly ever reliable nor is it effective. We already know the result of that. Cheaters keep coming back with the same cheat and they just get smarter every single time. The result is, they level up significantly much faster than the rest, they unbalance the game, new players get bad impression and leave. Seriously, at some point, a f2p game like DB will break due to the rampant cheating and the anti-witching policy in place. Just look at the Steam Charts, playerbase has been in decline for the past 6 months. Only crazy players remain.


(doxjq) #8

This is what I said in another thread 2 weeks ago. Something along the lines of “it would be awesome if we could dedicate a community administrator to each region to help get rid of hackers quicker”

I understand the power and how it could be abused, but surely there is a way to control it like you say, by just giving us a direct line of communication for faster bans rather than giving us the power to just ban people ourselves.

Our community (especially in Aus) is just far too small for hackers, especially when it’s impossible to avoid them because they follow you around. It’s annoying when they play one off games or play for a day nevermind weeks, and even then the problem with this hacker like I just said in another thread is that they have multiple accounts, so banning them won’t do crap.


(Jostabeere) #9

Nexon will never do that.


(Amerika) #10

I love this game and would do a lot for it. I would NOT do anything remotely like this though. You’d get bombarded with people claiming somebody cheated. And as soon as you say they didn’t cheat and give your reasons/logic and point out what actually happened during a sequence of events you’d get ridiculed and people would say you’re just defending cheaters.

I know because this has happened multiple times in Dirty Bomb when I’ve viewed evidence some have presented to me and it’s happened to me in previous games.

I wouldn’t mind a system where you could go through a person that knew what they were doing and could investigate some evidence and then push it forward to support to have them take a closer look. That’s what Leagues do already in other games and something I’ve done in the past myself. But you will be constantly under the gun while being barraged with requests for review without limitations. Which is why most Leagues also only accept evidence of cheating in League matches and not from pubs as you have to draw the line somewhere to keep everyone sane.


(Tanker_Ray) #11

Thanks for recommending me to this,(Note that my steam name isn’t THUNDA, but I am Thunder) but even if Nexon do so, I have to serve my country and army next year.

Welp, damn obligation. I would rather recommend @No_Chaika for this. He will mange it well, until I come back.


(bushyg) #12

@Amerika I’m sure if Nexon and SD were to be considering individuals for this, it would be at their own discretion, not something they would publicly announce.

They need something to combat people making new accounts after new accounts. Some of these people have been reaching 100+ hours on their accounts too, only to create a new account as soon as they’re banned. It’s a joke.


(pumpkinmeerkat) #13

This would probably work well if much of the player base wasn’t low level and constantly making hackusations.


(K1X455) #14

Seems like Nexon/SD is allocating manpower to do this sort of job regularly. So regular, it warrants automation, but with a dwindling player base, cheat coders are winning and hack users are laughing at all of us.

I don’t know what level of r a t i o n a l that is.


(The_N00Ba) #15

I don’t think any one wins if a game dies. The players lose a form of entertainment. The publisher/developers lose a source of revenue and possibly a dream. Even the hacker cheat coders lose. They will have nothing to produce code for and could lose a source of revenue themselves. it’s lose lose lose for everyone when a balance is not maintained.


(GatoCommodore) #16

Thanks for recommending me to this,(Note that my steam name isn’t THUNDA, but I am Thunder) but even if Nexon do so, I have to serve my country and army next year.

Welp, damn obligation. I would rather recommend @No_Chaika for this. He will mange it well, until I come back.[/quote]

man, the war thingy in south korea is very real…
it makes my stomach feels not good…

lets hope north korea have better things to do than exploding hydrogen bombs.


(ZenVirZan) #17

There will always be cheaters. The anti-cheat will never keep them all at bay, so unless Nexon has another plan, they will always be behind. There’s no reason for them to not just make another account. Usually a pay wall stops this, but Dirty Bomb has none. The best we can do is ban them fast enough to make cheating not worth the hassle of making new accounts. That’s the bottom line.

Ran into the same guy I made the original post about, but on a new account after the first one was finally banned. Same display name, etc.

Except now he’s started server wiping, killing everyone without even firing his weapon.

Things need to change, guys. I don’t care how you do it. I am aware Amerika that it would get overwhelming if you were a formal moderator for a large community, but at least for the sake of the smaller communities, I really think Nexon should consider it.


(Tanker_Ray) #18

Thanks for recommending me to this,(Note that my steam name isn’t THUNDA, but I am Thunder) but even if Nexon do so, I have to serve my country and army next year.

Welp, damn obligation. I would rather recommend @No_Chaika for this. He will mange it well, until I come back.[/quote]

man, the war thingy in south korea is very real…
it makes my stomach feels not good…

lets hope north korea have better things to do than exploding hydrogen bombs.[/quote]

Quite funny South Korea is really peaceful country, unlike western guys think we are always in alerting situation.

Except the fact I was ready to dominate this game along with the other pro KR DBers just like we Koreans ruled over League of Legends/OW/, but then this fat little dictator piggy doesn’t let me contribute/struggle with DB.

Reason why SK made this… shxtty Call of REAL Duty is all because of NK, and this fxcking piggy who can’t define lunch and launch.

I hate him so much. Let me play DB!!!


(GatoCommodore) #19

Thanks for recommending me to this,(Note that my steam name isn’t THUNDA, but I am Thunder) but even if Nexon do so, I have to serve my country and army next year.

Welp, damn obligation. I would rather recommend @No_Chaika for this. He will mange it well, until I come back.[/quote]

man, the war thingy in south korea is very real…
it makes my stomach feels not good…

lets hope north korea have better things to do than exploding hydrogen bombs.[/quote]

Quite funny South Korea is really peaceful country, unlike western guys think we are always in alerting situation.

Except the fact I was ready to dominate this game along with the other pro KR DBers just like we Koreans ruled over League of Legends/OW/, but then this fat little dictator piggy doesn’t let me contribute/struggle with DB.

Reason why SK made this… shxtty Call of REAL Duty is all because of NK, and this fxcking piggy who can’t define lunch and launch.

I hate him so much. Let me play DB!!![/quote]

i wont call having a land border with NK is peaceful.
the last time they detonate hydrogen bomb, the radiation cloud can be blown to russia, china and SK, raining down radiation at your country.

in my country, we dont put artilery and tanks at the border.

plus the currently most advanced military hardware title owned by korean.

K2 tank with magic armor
the Korean Airburst grenade rifle
joint strike system
naval ship to air and ship to ground missiles
Vulcans
the Hyunmoo-3 can go 3000 Km
Apache
Anti-Missiles systems

hell, SK is ready for WW3


(Nail) #20

and NK has legal pot