Suggestion about Campaigns and 3rd Party Maps/Mappers.

(pgh) #1

Starters, I am not a mapper myself. Ive learnt basics and messed about but I am, slowly, on my way creating 2 maps… but in the meantime things are going through me head…

I’ve looked at so many maps and played so many 3rd party maps but something just always seemed to be missing. Fair enough only about half the maps I tried and actually liked or thought to myself that it my be playable in comp conditions but its just kinda clicked to me there whats missing.

Ok, so as I said, we have maps… but, just no campaigns. Or at least, proper campaigns. What we need is people to start getting together either working in teams or just allowing there maps to be used in a set along with another 2 maps with a similar theme or whatever. I mean, maps set in Snowy Mountains (Like mp_tram) then a 2nd map eg, Eisfaust, set half and half then a 3rd map taking place in another Undergroundish type base similar to what appears to be the 2nd half of Eisfaust (Rockets, Tunnel Interiors).

Looking at that Rising Sun mod for example, the idea is there and part of the work… but with another 2/3 people on it along side kommando means things get done 3 times quicker with 3 times the xp/knowledge on the project.

Looking at maps from 3 different points being… Design (Textures, Layout), Playability (Eveness, Camp/Spawn Spots, Objectives) and Competition (Faster more Tactical based Gameplay) what maps would people like to see together? And if you are a mapper yourself, why not try and find others to put maps together with and release full blown campaigns. Would be sweet… and would save lot less pk3 space and time for downloading customs (bigger files maybe, but all in one place)… and easier to get up on servers and running…

(MuffinMan) #2

actually the problem is that 3 maps are a lot of work and you need some people to do that much in an acceptable time…
I personally always liked the idea of getting some ppl together for such projects that’s the reason why I founded www.wolfproject.net and we are actually working together but we are only 5 members at the moment (grizzlybear(mapping), detoeni.uk(mapping), konigstiger(sounds), uberdave(modelling), me(mapping))

for a 3 map campaign we would need more mappers, maybe a texture artist, if it would be a mod we’d maybe need another coder as well(besides me). at the moment our folks work on mc_bergen but release should be quite soon, there are no plans for future projects yet but I hope and assume there will be. so if there are interested ppl they might want to visit us and share their ideas at the forums.

(blushing_bride) #3

well you could already make some great campaigns from customs. For example transmitter, northpole and frostbite (i know the only thing they have in common is snow). Then you could have Venice, Naverrone and there must be one other map based around the mediterrean. Then you could have Temple, Raiders and citadel. And there are a million northen europe maps, i think kommando is already two maps into a three map campaign. The main problem is that servers that do put customs on either have ten map rotations that change every five minutes or they just have one map played over and over again. Some server admins should make a few three map campaigns and keep them on constantly rather then changing maps every five seconds. Of course the other problem is thayt many custom map servers are always empty. I’d like to play more customs but i dont wanna play ten map campaigns which seems to be about the only place you can play custom maps with lots of other people.

(G0-Gerbil) #4

Muffinman - is wolfproject ET or RTCW?

(MuffinMan) #5

gerbil:
well we have one rtcw map waiting for completion, in fact i guess you already heared about it as we are working at it since about 1 1/2 years now (well not always, from time to time…) wp_die_eskorte, it’s the biggest map there is for rtcw and ET maps are not as big either, that’s one of the reasons why it takes so long - we run into shitloads of problems with engine limits…

anyway mc_bergen is for the ET multisite competition and i’m sure all future projects will be for ET

I planned wolfproject to be a place for multiple parallel projects and at least to a certain extend it is

blushing_bride:
i am going to add a 3-6 map custom campaign to our public clan-server to have a official-custom-campaign rotation (name: www.kingludwigsarmy.com - 6 map) just don’t know what to add yet, for sure it will be our map mc_bergen and now i’ll have a look at venice, any more ideas?

(blushing_bride) #6

i think 2 campaigns of 3 maps each would be cool. I can only find one screen of Bergen and it looks northen europe so you have a lot of choice as to what you put with it. Off the top of my head i’d suggest Hide and Stargate for a northen europe feel. But the best thing to do would be to download a few and have a look at them. See what the objectives are so you dont have three maps with similar things to do. Im sure other people in this forum will have good idea for custom campaigns as well.

(MuffinMan) #7

you’re right trying some maps would be best problem is only that i have so little time… however here are some more screens of bergen:
http://www.wolfproject.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=240

(neotic) #8

My biggest complaint about 3rd party pk3s are ones that cause that endless loading loop. I’m sure its something only found when working on our own 3rd party maps but its really annoying and 2 ET installs is too. =x