My hope is that SD will make the two levels free to all, and leave the character skins, levels, and abilities to those that get the DLC.
It’s the best way (IMO) they can re-new interest in those that have waned, and those who are sitting on the fence to purchase/play it.
[QUOTE=AmishWarMachine;347160]My hope is that SD will make the two levels free to all, and leave the character skins, levels, and abilities to those that get the DLC.
It’s the best way (IMO) they can re-new interest in those that have waned, and those who are sitting on the fence to purchase/play it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I see where you are coming from.
[QUOTE=Jimmy James;347132]My concern is that servers with the DLC maps will be unavailable to the players that don’t own that particular DLC. (Possibly hurting the already anemic player base.)
And again: I’m not sure why you keep returning to this idea that the DLC being free or costing money has anything to do with it. I’m about to drop $2K+ for a new computer just to run Brink, the cost of the DLCs has nothing to do with anything in this thread. Please try to keep your posts on-topic.
-JJ[/QUOTE]
make sure you avoid ATI like a skanky ho. intel i7 sb 2006k if you can 
im still trying to justify it but i just dropped £350 on a new nvidia 580 so maybe enough on toys for a while! 
i think paid for DLC will fracture the community, in big games you dont notice as there are thousands of players. also consoles without a browser will not notice due to the matchmaking system. those of us who can browse servers will see it. many servers dont put on paid dlc maps. its hard enough to find full servers as it is.
also games like battlefield usually have good value DLC mappacks. complete new game modes with a few maps. free packs paid for by advertising. whole new maps with new skins etc (ala Vietnam)
[QUOTE=AmishWarMachine;347160]My hope is that SD will make the two levels free to all, and leave the character skins, levels, and abilities to those that get the DLC.
It’s the best way (IMO) they can re-new interest in those that have waned, and those who are sitting on the fence to purchase/play it.[/QUOTE]
thats a better option if they force it. at least that would fracture the community any more.
[QUOTE=Smoochy;347200]make sure you avoid ATI like a skanky ho. intel i7 sb 2006k if you can im still trying to justify it but i just dropped £350 on a new nvidia 580 so maybe enough on toys for a while!
i think paid for DLC will fracture the community, in big games you dont notice as there are thousands of players. also consoles without a browser will not notice due to the matchmaking system. those of us who can browse servers will see it. many servers dont put on paid dlc maps. its hard enough to find full servers as it is.
also games like battlefield usually have good value DLC mappacks. complete new game modes with a few maps. free packs paid for by advertising. whole new maps with new skins etc (ala Vietnam)[/QUOTE]
BFBC2 didnt sell anything but the Vietname EXPANSION which did split the community as it was like a whole nother game. Otherwise you got a VIP when you bought it or it you got it used paid like $10 or something for the VIP pass. Never any new game modes (outside of the one DLC that no one got as it was only co-op), just allowing certain maps to be playable in more then one mode which was all data already on the disk.
I dont see how the community gets fractured unless EVERYONE that currently has the game decides not to DL the DLC while it is Free. I mean really are you expecting mass sales after its no longer free and expect NO ONE to DL the DLC for a couple of bucks?(Not directed toward you Smoochy) You claim PC players are such huge supporters of gamecs but they dont buy the DLC or DL it while its FREE! Sounds like a personal problem and not something SD should have to deal with dont you think? You guys want and SDK and all that to make your own maps, how does that not fracure the community 100x more then 2 FREE DLC maps?
Oh but apparently $$$$$$$$$$$$$ has nothing to do with this at all according to Jimmmy James. SO WHAT THE HECK IS THE PROBLEM THEN? Seems Smoochy gets the logic behind it, I just dont agree with him.
Like I said before. It didn’t matter that it split the community. They could do that. They had a lot of players. You could find games with ease, and you still can. But when it’s already a huge hassle to get a game for brink, you can’t afford splitting the community even more.
[QUOTE=Jimmy James;347132]My concern is that servers with the DLC maps will be unavailable to the players that don’t own that particular DLC. (Possibly hurting the already anemic player base.)
And again: I’m not sure why you keep returning to this idea that the DLC being free or costing money has anything to do with it. I’m about to drop $2K+ for a new computer just to run Brink, the cost of the DLCs has nothing to do with anything in this thread. Please try to keep your posts on-topic.
-JJ[/QUOTE]
All your other posts
“I like all the content SD is offering in the first DLC (raising the level cap, new maps, abilities, weapon attachments, and outfits) and I’d like to see more of all of that in future DLCs. My only concern is that new maps will be exclusive to the DLC which would potentially fracture Brink’s player base.-JJ”
" I fail to see the distinction.As for the rest of your tirade, no one is talking about the price of the DLCs. That’s not even what this thread is about anyway.-JJ"
“I fail to see the contradiction. Can you please explain exactly how I’m contradicting myself?”
“My concern is that servers with the DLC maps will be unavailable to the players that don’t own that particular DLC. (Possibly hurting the already anemic player base.)And again: I’m not sure why you keep returning to this idea that the DLC being free or costing money has anything to do with it. I’m about to drop $2K+ for a new computer just to run Brink, the cost of the DLCs has nothing to do with anything in this thread. Please try to keep your posts on-topic.”
Ok now this is like the 3-4 post now (^those quotes are your responses to the question before in this thread) I am asking you to please explain how exactly THIS DLC will fracture the player base in any way, especially outside of the future cost being an issue. Apprarently you claim it will be a problem but that it has ZERO to do with $$$. So please feel free to explain this becuase as of now you have totally refused to/ignored it and tried to spin it back to me.
I dont like derailing the thread but when I ask you a question/call you out and I get half assed responses that answer nothing, welll then that bothers me and makes me WANT TO KNOW that much more. But then again you are saying I am not the one keeping it ON TOPIC yet YOU ARE THE ONE claiming the DLC maps will split the community and I just want to know why you THINK this is and you have thus far REFUSED to eleborate on that original statement from yourself. Maybe you should be the one KEEPING YOUR POST ON TOPIC. Maybe you have a good reason behind your thoughts, I could be totally wrong, but until you say something more then “it has nothing to do with price” or “keep it on topic” you are just DODGING the questions and I will keep calling you out. Dont claim things are a problem if you cant even explain why it will be a problem, sounds like the problem is all in your head and not factual.
In your opinion what exactly will it be that will split the community and why/how?
[QUOTE=Oschino1907;347522]
Ok now this is like the 3-4 post now (^those quotes are your responses to the question before in this thread) I am asking you to please explain how exactly THIS DLC will fracture the player base in any way, especially outside of the future cost being an issue.[/QUOTE]
I didn’t mean the first DLC specifically, I was speaking of future DLCs which is the actual topic of this thread:
There are a few people apparently that will be out of town or otherwise unable to get the first DLC for the free two-week period but I don’t see that as being a major issue. I’m more concerned about what the community will look like once 3+ non-free DLCs are released with new maps. If we can all still play together regardless of which DLCs/maps we paid for then no problem.
-JJ
If there are maps that not everyone has and they’re worth playing then the community will fracture. If there are added levels (XP) that you only get by buying a dlc then the community will fracture (Rank imbalance) or there will be a subsection of the community who will get dominated due to being weaker (fewer ability points, no access to added abilities).
How badly it fractures very much depends on how expensive the DLCs will be and what is in the DLC / what comes as a free content update.
I have a sneaky suspicion (based on previous practices) that Bethesda is going to seriously dissapoint you all by breaking into your house late at night and stealing all your money. And then they’ll overcharge for the dlc… But first they’ll pour sugar in your gas tank while having… well you know the quote I’m sure.
(yes, I may be a little miffed with a certain distributor at the moment… does it show?)
[QUOTE=Jimmy James;347544]I didn’t mean the first DLC specifically, I was speaking of future DLCs which is the actual topic of this thread:
There are a few people apparently that will be out of town or otherwise unable to get the first DLC for the free two-week period but I don’t see that as being a major issue. I’m more concerned about what the community will look like once 3+ non-free DLCs are released with new maps. If we can all still play together regardless of which DLCs/maps we paid for then no problem.
-JJ[/QUOTE]
Ok cool, now we are on the same page here. Thats a concern I can understand but dont see a reason to worry now. Who knows how long it will be until then, but trust me if its not a decent price and seems like a rip off I will be right there with you FIGHTING against it.
Just dont see the reason to be worried about that now, the current free DLC+game sale+patch should mean more players and hopefully some new ones and guys that will be sticking around. I dont want to get to into the future stuff as of right no it is all specualtion to our knowledge. I hope they dont go down a bad road and I PRAY that Bethesda doesnt screw us down the road, I know SD wont be the ones behind it. I have a positive outlook for the future though, i am all in with this game so I guess I thats how I should be. As Wolfnemesis said though “Let cross that bridge when we get there” . I knwo if its a decent price and not free pretty much EVERYONE I play with wil have no prob picking it up especially after the first being FREE. Maybe on PC guys have a diff view on that but if you like this game and play reg with friends i see no reason why you wouldnt get the DLC if the price is right.
If Bethesda is smart though they will keep the “two weeks free” for all future downloads to say THANK YOU to all those playing and to help drive sales of the game. If they want to push copies thats the way to do it, I know a decent number of people getting the game very soon just to be sure they get the DLC free. And I think we can all agree there are LOTS of copies out there of the game for console and people will be snatching them up with game on sale and free DLC, if they did that for future DLC as well and keep patching any problems I see the Pop rising steady. I hope they either stick to that or keep the DLC in the $5-10 range based on content, as said it before and will say it again MORE PLAYERS IS BETTER THEN MORE $$$$ and if they want this to survive and get a backing for Brink 2 they will need all the players they can get! This game spreads like wildfire through word of mouth amongst friends and those I played with, its been doing the game better then any TV/Poster Ads or online reviews. Atleast thats my experiance…
I’m strictly PC, no consoles, but I’d be willing to put down an additional $50 twice (for my wife and I) in order to have access to all future DLCs (assuming there will be more than one). We both had “lifetime” subscriptions to Hellgate: London for its 15 month run in which we broke even ($10-per-month or $150 lifetime). I’m not familiar with the pricing on console DLCs but the ones I’ve seen for PCs, (Neverwinter Nights, Fallout 3, and Fallout: New Vegas) were all very reasonably priced in my opinion.
-JJ
[QUOTE=Jimmy James;347598]I’m strictly PC, no consoles, but I’d be willing to put down an additional $50 twice (for my wife and I) in order to have access to all future DLCs (assuming there will be more than one). We both had “lifetime” subscriptions to Hellgate: London for its 15 month run in which we broke even ($10-per-month or $150 lifetime). I’m not familiar with the pricing on console DLCs but the ones I’ve seen for PCs, (Neverwinter Nights, Fallout 3, and Fallout: New Vegas) were all very reasonably priced in my opinion.
-JJ[/QUOTE]
I wouldnt expect it to even be $50 worth in the end, very few games have that much DLC (unless its very overpriced) so I wouldnt expect to be paying that much or seeing that much content, (although if they could pull it off I would keep getting it all). On console many games usually have maybe $20-30 worth if its supported well. If anything the FO ones tend be be a lil pricey but you only need to buy the ones you want as they dont tend to effect each other and also they always have a GOTY version with all added for a good price after a year.
Thats why I dont see the problem and MANY MANY others especially on console dont see the big deal, for us consolers DLC has never really split any games up. There have been some so-so DLC for some “popular” fps’s/shooters that failed because the content was lacking and not enough hardcore players, but then again people that did buy it (I have been one more then once) tended to say screw the new maps after a short time and went back to the core game to play with others. But they were mostly PS3 exclusives Resistance 2 and Warhawk to name a few.
In the end though I think its obvious that those that already play and love the game or those joining late to play but love the game will have ZERO problem forking out a few bucks to get all the content (in the future if its not free) to play with others if it comes down to it, especially with the price drops and even cheaper used copies. Who can complain about getting a few month old game plus any DLC content (even if you miss the free stuff) and it still being cheaper then many games that came out before Brink before you even get the DLC for them. Like I said maybe its diff for PC and many PC players arent used to this kind of thing with games but to a consoler this is a great deal and nothing to complain about considering the alternatives.
Says the guy who has added close to nothing to this thread regarding the topic. You have spent much more time pointing me out then actually posting about the topic itself. Actually I am totally failing to see where you even posted anything about what YOU are claiming this thread is about… “I think the point of this was just to say what you were most looking forward to.” Feel free to take your own advice and take your attention off me and stick to the topic.
what? I’m not reading all that. I told you to shut up and post what you were looking forward to then I did the same. Haha god damn I bet most people can’t stand you. Get lost.
Did you seriously just ask me how paid dlc will split the community?
…I’m speechless…
LOL your “not reading all that”, Epic fail comeback…
Please feel free now to explain how -
“The level cap, abilities, maps, and outfits are a neat little bonus, but I’m more concerned with the tweaks the title update will bring to the game. While the goodies will bring some people back to try, if the core game isn’t better it won’t keep people staying. It seems like SD has been more active in the community lately, which is really encouraging. I’m really looking forward to playing an updated Brink.”
Is the same as - “I think the point of this was just to say what you were most looking forward to.”
Nice self owning there Morguen87
read the last sentence. I’m most looking forward to the tweaks the update will bring. Is that too hard to understand? Whatever, I don’t want to make this thread worse than it already is by bickering with you, you’re a complete numbskull and polute any thread you post in with your stubborn idiocy.
Most looking forward to… IN THE DLC, NOT THE PATCH… Topic starter said
“Also what is the thing your most looking forward to in the DLC, me… The outfits. What would you like to see in future DLC’s? Me more guns like the AK and Snipers and more outfits.”
Maybe if you werent so preoccupied with ME you would have spotted that. Nice Self Owning again.
Either way you only added ONE sentance that vaguely described what you were looking forward to and it wasnt the DLC but the patch comming out with it. Dont come at me talking crap and trying making me look bad when your not even close to being better and have NO ROOM to talk. Hi Pot I am Kettle, have we met before?
On topic I dont even know where to go with all this, there is soooooooooooo much they could do and I would welcome anything to further expand whats already in the game or new content that would go along with it. I think we will just have to wait and see what they already have planned. If they want our feedback I hope they put a thread about it so we can get some added content based on what the players want or ideas brought up by players. Maybe even some kind of design contest for weapon skins or character customaztion content. LOL there is just so much that can be done, lets just hope they go the right direction with it all.