Stark/BR16.....

(larkishIvy) #1

People say they got buffed and are quite good now, but I think they were fine before the original nerf. Maybe because I used Kira alot, but I feel that before, it still took skill to beat an enemy, and someone who was taking down heavy mercs with a Kira was doing it with their skill, not with an OP gun. Kira and Arty (I guess Stoker/Skyhammer too, but they are more prevelant) were already pretty uncommon but now nobody uses them.

To summarise - I feel the burst rifles would be more viable as their original kinda fast firing selves. Basically 2 patches ago (I think).
I hope this wasn’t too negative, as my first post I have a long way to go.
Thanks!

(larkishIvy) #2

Just my opinion,

(Amerika) #3

The old burst rifles allowed you to spray similar to how you use an M4 but with a lot more clicking. So people who weren’t that great at specifically timing their shots could still hit pretty decently with them. The new burst rifles require you to fire when you’re crosshair is actually on a person as opposed to just tapping to get max RoF. Some people haven’t quite gotten experienced with this enough yet and tend to miss bursts which punish them.

So it will definitely be divisive. Especially if you were used to the old style and played it for quite some time. I wouldn’t mind if they introduced a new gun that fired like the old BR16 or put the BR16 back to the way it was just to make the guns be a bit more unique.

I have a YT channel of me using them so there is somebody who not only enjoys them but has done extremely well with them.

(Captain_Forward) #4

Hey, I’m not nobody. There’s always place in my squad for Lazor girl and Artillery boy (or lovely Stark Stoker for Underground)

(Dawnlazy) #5

What I don’t understand is why they had to change both of them. BR-16 was fine the way it was before, Stark was underused since it was essentially the same weapon with less ammo so it would be nice if they only changed the Stark but left BR the way it was.

(Amerika) #6

The only logical reason why I can think that SD keeps making similar but slightly different weapons is that the game is balanced, currently, around each merc only having access to three primary weapons. Some people might get used to a certain gun and then a new merc comes out and that person doesn’t have an option with that merc because it has different guns…unless you make a few of them fire similarly. Then you could buy Stoker with a Stark that would be pretty close to Skyhammer with a BR16.

That is seriously the only reason why I can think of SD not wanting to make the guns more unique when they obviously could. I don’t agree with it but my theory is the only thing that makes sense to me.

(cornJester) #7

The Stark is amazing now and I absolutely adore it. I use it on both Stoker and Thunder, mainly because that’s what I have in cobalt. The thing destroys people if you use if correctly. Aim for heads and use it like a shotgun where you try to make your shots count. You can easily out-snipe even snipers. It’s in a good state.

(SaulWolfden) #8

Yeah, I think the Stark should be as Burst Rifles are now and BR-16 to be pre patch that way they are unique, since on Arty and Kira they basically have two of the same weapon which technically Stoker and Skyhammer do too with the worse M4 known as the Timik and ofc having the M4.

(Ritobasu) #9

I like the idea of the BR-16 going back to pre-CW stats, but the Stark would need less burst delay than the current 0.26ms to even it out. I’d also make the spread and recoil increase noticeably less, making it very accurate at continuous sustained fire while the BR-16 can put out a higher volume of fire more quickly with less dmg per bullet and more recoil/spread to deal with

In the same vein as these changes, they really need to buff the Timik as well but that’s for another thread

(Dawnlazy) #10

[quote=“Ritobasu;120206”]I like the idea of the BR-16 going back to pre-CW stats, but the Stark would need less burst delay than the current 0.26ms to even it out. I’d also make the spread and recoil increase noticeably less, making it very accurate at continuous sustained fire while the BR-16 can put out a higher volume of fire more quickly with less dmg per bullet and more recoil/spread to deal with

In the same vein as these changes, they really need to buff the Timik as well but that’s for another thread[/quote]

I’d like to see the Stark either even stronger at 19 damage a bullet, or gaining proper sights, longer effective range and tighter accuracy when scoped in.

(BananaSlug) #11

those weapons are great now, less spamy but you can easily took down heavy mercs and i dont see the point of spamming the weapon, i didnt liked them before cw because i was aing and then shooting not spamming and it had too low dmg for me

and i think the best idea is just making a poll