Squishy Assaults?

(KattiValk) #1

It only just occurred to me, but would it be totally insane for a new merc to be a light Assault character (90HP or lower)? I don’t know how you would balance them, but it seems like something unique compared to the Assaults we currently know about.

Maybe give them a hard kill shield bubble that blocks incoming weapons fire but not abilities or something of that nature plus an ability or weapon with high DPS. I dunno, this is mostly a random(ish) idea.

(I’d post this in the suggestion subforum but that seems to be nothing but specific ideas while this is mostly just a concept, I may make it into an actual character though).

(Hydrelion) #2

Bubble shield would be awesome. I can’t imagine a full team of them escorting the EV, although if something like this was added, I would assume that objectives would be blocked while using the shield (i’d hope so).

(KattiValk) #3

@Hydrelion It’s just a concept though. There’s more you could do than just a shield. :wink:

Not that I can think of anything else at the moment.

(Drcipres) #4

This will be way to OP, imagine the EV, people will just take the damage, and same for engineers while defusing, this will remove the point on heavy classes, and atm there is a class like that, proxy, a assault with low hp and high dps is she

(watsyurdeal) #5

Nader says hi

(distraction) #6

every class is an assault class if you believe.

(KattiValk) #7

@Drcipres If you’re talking about the bubble shield concept (which again, this thread is about squishy assaults in general), as I sad earlier, it could be made to only block bullets so airstrikes and explosives would still go through to an EV.

@Watsyurdeal She has a medium(ish) hit box and more HP than the real lights. I was wondering if we could get a full on light with some sort of ability set that makes them as door kicker like as the others.

(watsyurdeal) #8

@Incoming It wouldn’t work, because Assaults are all about dishing out punishment as well as taking it, Nader is the closest you will get to a light Assault.

Notice how she is the only one in her bracket with normal health amounts, everyone else has 150, 160, and 200 respectively.

(Drcipres) #9

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;114076”]@Incoming It wouldn’t work, because Assaults are all about dishing out punishment as well as taking it, Nader is the closest you will get to a light Assault.

Notice how she is the only one in her bracket with normal health amounts, everyone else has 150, 160, and 200 respectively. [/quote]

I will always consider skyhammer as an assault merc

(watsyurdeal) #10

[quote=“Drcipres;114084”][quote=“Watsyurdeal;114076”]@Incoming It wouldn’t work, because Assaults are all about dishing out punishment as well as taking it, Nader is the closest you will get to a light Assault.

Notice how she is the only one in her bracket with normal health amounts, everyone else has 150, 160, and 200 respectively. [/quote]

I will always consider skyhammer as an assault merc[/quote]

Welp, unforunately you’re wrong

Cause none of the assault can restore ammo or have insanely long cooldowns on their abilities.

(Rawr) #11

The only merc I can think of that would be close to a squishy assault class would be Kira. She has low health, high speed, a high dps ability (but with a pretty long cooldown), and good guns (up for debate I guess). Other than her I can’t really think of anyone else (maybe Proxy as a close assault?)

(KattiValk) #12

@Watsyurdeal I don’t see why not. If an Assault is meant to take punishment, give a light Assault an ability to absorb punishment, and if they’re meant to deal damage, give them some sort of high damage ability as well. I think it could work quite nicely with a bit of thought and balance work.

@Drcipres Every merc is supposed to be at least decent at fragging. Just because Fire Supports can obliterate teams doesn’t make them Assault mercs.

(blisteringOwlNest) #13

Hmmmm, what merc is a little faster, has a shield and is entirely meant to kill people?

Oh wait he just magically appeared out of thin air! (No one tell him we could already see him and half of us are now deaf because of the ringing)

(Reddeadcap) #14

Nader is pretty squishy for an assault and mobile, compared to other classes not so much, anything lower would defeat the purpose.

(KattiValk) #15

@blisteringOwlNest Phantom may have a shield, but he can’t really fire and still have it on. :smiley:

@Redcap She still has a medium hit box. Not really a light character.

The way I see it Assaults are meant to do two things better than others:
-kill enemies
-be the primary focus/tank

The only big concept I’ve gotten at the moment is the shield. Actually, if Javelin hasn’t been totally finished, you could make her a light merc with a shield and rocket launcher. Or maybe an AOE EMP effect that disables all abilities near them or perhaps the primaries of opponents. IDK, I’m still thinking about it.

(Reddeadcap) #16

[quote=“Incoming;114750”]@blisteringOwlNest Phantom may have a shield, but he can’t really fire and still have it on. :smiley:

@Redcap She still has a medium hit box. Not really a light character.

The way I see it Assaults are meant to do two things better than others:
-kill enemies
-be the primary focus/tank

The only big concept I’ve gotten at the moment is the shield. Actually, if Javelin hasn’t been totally finished, you could make her a light merc with a shield and rocket launcher. Or maybe an AOE EMP effect that disables all abilities near them or perhaps the primaries of opponents. IDK, I’m still thinking about it.[/quote]

an emp has been added to Thunder’s concs, a shield I wish was a thing if they just turned Phantom’s cloak back into a regular cloak rather than a mix of a cloak and shield and by what we know Javelin if they’re ever to come would count as a fire support.

(JJMAJR) #17

We already have a squishy assault. It’s called Thunder.
Easy Bishlock prey, and you don’t say that all the time honestly.

(KattiValk) #18

@Redcap Thunder’s EMP doesn’t stop another merc having a bigger and more powerful one. :stuck_out_tongue:

@JJMAJR Slow doesn’t mean he isn’t really hard to kill. I just think a lot of the Thunder users are kind of bad at aiming.

(JJMAJR) #19

[quote=“Incoming;115544”]@Redcap Thunder’s EMP doesn’t stop another merc having a bigger and more powerful one. :stuck_out_tongue:

@JJMAJR Slow doesn’t mean he isn’t really hard to kill. I just think a lot of the Thunder users are kind of bad at aiming.[/quote]

No, the Thunder just has a fat headshot hitbox.