Sparks - In need of some TLC

(Sir Rexman) #1

So first off I want to state I’ve played sparks for about 6 hours, and I feel as tho she needs some TLC. I feel this way because atm she is mainly just a gimped Medic that can revive from afar (which sounds cool) but in practice, most people that are far away from a medic are normally Gib’ed and Tbag’d And even if you fire a fully charged shot at the target just after he dies, he more or less will get shot or knifed during the Rez animation and hence a wasted shot.

As for the heal packs eh, most sparks players will just chuck em around, as the heal they provide is minute imo, Sure it can help in 1v1 fights but other then that its like patching a broken leg with tissue paper.

And sure some can use the revive gun as a sniper to an extent (which I still haven’t mastered) but even still if you engage most snipers, their PDP or MOA will outright stomp you if they have good aim.

Lastly I wasn’t to mention the weaponry she has, a Machine Pistol and a Pistol, both are okay I guess, sure some Machine pistols are good, but at the end of the day assault rifles stomp you and shotgun (which imo need a nerf) will also stomp you :confused:

I just feel as if sparks isn’t in a good place, she feels like either a dam hard merc to actually be effective with (which is true to an extent) or she’s just not as good as other medic mercs.

So what is your opinion Dirty bomb forum users? Do you feel the underwhelmingness of sparks, or are you one of them sweet ass pro sparks that I rarely see but appreciate nonetheless?

(doxjq) #2

I feel she needed a nerf originally, no question about it, but that they have taken it too far.

First it was her reviver, then it was the machine pistols, then quick charge was nerfed etc. I dunno she just seems impossible to play properly now for the average player, but there are still some god-tier Sparks players around, so who knows.

(terminal) #3

whats a tlc

(Sir Rexman) #4

Tender Loving care :wink:

(Sir Rexman) #5

[quote=“Dox;183751”]I feel she needed a nerf originally, no question about it, but that they have taken it too far.

First it was her reviver, then it was the machine pistols, then quick charge was nerfed etc. I dunno she just seems impossible to play properly now for the average player, but there are still some god-tier Sparks players around, so who knows. [/quote]

Yh problem is, should she have such a high skill celling making average players, just feel unhelpful when using her? Like I’ve really tried to be a dam good medic with her but I just find it so hard to do my specific Job of rezzing people from afar, when most engagements happen at CQC.

Also I still dont know a way of which SD could even Buff the current sparks to a decent level, to make it easier for average players, to actually be helpful with her.

(frostyvampire) #6

MP9 is actually an SMG, it counts as a machine pistol in DB but it’s an SMG, so 3 of her loadouts basically have an SMG primary.
The REVIVR is a really good sniper weapon
Sparks is the fastest merc (tied with Aura)
The med-packs are not supposed to be the way you heal people, you only use them to heal yourself or if a teammate is in combat, if a teammate is in a safe position and have low health (<30%), shoot them in the head and then revive them with a fully charged reviver
Don’t use loadout cards without Get Up.

She doesn’t need to be buffed, she is an advanced medic that you need to train with to get good. If you want a simpler medic use Aura or Sawbonez

P.S. You posted this in the wrong section

(ClemClem7) #7

Stop nerfing her will be a good start, then a little rebalance to her primary
@Watsyurdeal said some good points in the conversation
http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/30282/sparks-nerfs-state-of-the-usefulness-of-sparks#latest

(neverplayseriou) #8

The mp9 is a machine pistol not an smg… @FrostyVampire

(Szakalot) #9

the difference between a good sparks and the fail sparks is the speed. in order to revive people effectively you need to be able to rez them before they hit the ground. if you need to stop-pullout revive- aim - revive - you are too slow.

even then some of the revives will fail, but the majority will go through.

protip: the reviving hitbox reaches to a point above the body. it is much easier to shoot at this mysterious location, than the body itself, especially with some trick revives.

if you want to be an excellent sparks, you need the aim to also effectively harass opponents at range, while you are playing the necromancer, keeping your team alive

(frostyvampire) #10

In Dirty Bomb for some reason it’s flagged as a machine pistol ingame. However it’s actually an SMG, it’s an SMG in csgo and on the wiki. This is why it’s the best machine pistol and it has such a huge clip and fire rate

(Cuck) #11

In Dirty Bomb for some reason it’s flagged as a machine pistol ingame. However it’s actually an SMG, it’s an SMG in csgo and on the wiki. This is why it’s the best machine pistol and it has such a huge clip and fire rate[/quote]

the term “machine pistol” usually refers to a weapon built up from a semi-automatic pistol design. Machine pistols are generally more compact to be concealable and can be operated one-handed, while submachine guns are usually designed to be two-handed and tend to have longer barrels for better accuracy.

submachinegun (with full stock and longer barrel)
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/callofjuarez/images/5/53/MP5A2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120222232135

this is Machine Pistol

tis is subbie

tis is pissie

(DexterGrif) #12

The Revivr HP falloff was unnecessary, because its now like, “You’re a long range medic, but not too long range! That would be OP for you to fill your role!” IDK, it feels like Sparks is now outclassed by an Aura who can wall-jump.

(KUST__LunarTM) #13

Sparks is still a fine medic. I find the best perk for her tends to be Quick Draw so you can hit a person with a REVIVR shot, then quickly switch over to your MP and finish them off.

(grandioseCutlet) #14

The main problem is that she doesn’t really shine at anything anymore. Alright she was too good before the huge nerf, because you could snipe, fight in close range decently, revive at any range, the only thing she was bad at was healing.

But now, they nerfed every aspect of her gameplay, she can’t really snipe that well anymore (which is a good thing I believe), she can’t revive that well either (which is a bad thing I think, since reviving in range is the purpose of her existence) and her weapons all have been nerfed, so she is only decent at very close range, and even then any good player will wreck you because of your 80 hp, unless he has 80/90 hp as well.

So even though she still might be kind of viable, she should be able to revive like before, without any range limitation. She is already bad at fighting and healing, so at least they should make here able to revive properly.

(inscrutableShow) #15

In Dirty Bomb for some reason it’s flagged as a machine pistol ingame. However it’s actually an SMG, it’s an SMG in csgo and on the wiki. This is why it’s the best machine pistol and it has such a huge clip and fire rate[/quote]

MP-9. As in MachinePistol-9. Not SMG-9. We already have that. CS-GO really isn’t the authrity on what is and isn’t. It’s a game, too. People on wikis can be wrong.

(IAmYourDad) #16

She needs to get some actual primary weapon, not secondaries.

But since SD won’t do that give her the katana so that she can actually be useful in cqc.

And no, Revivr is a sad excuse of a railgun. It’s not a reliable damage dealer. It’s not a primary,

pesudo or otherwise.

(KUST__LunarTM) #17

[quote=“IAmYourDad;183866”]She needs to get some actual primary weapon, not secondaries.

But since SD won’t do that give her the katana so that she can actually be useful in cqc.

And no, Revivr is a sad excuse of a railgun. It’s not a reliable damage dealer. It’s not a primary,

pesudo or otherwise.
[/quote]

Aim for the head. One of my favourite shots was on chapel, nailing a Proxy in the head right before she reached the EV at the beginning of the game.

(IAmYourDad) #18

[quote=“KUST;183872”][quote=“IAmYourDad;183866”]She needs to get some actual primary weapon, not secondaries.

But since SD won’t do that give her the katana so that she can actually be useful in cqc.

And no, Revivr is a sad excuse of a railgun. It’s not a reliable damage dealer. It’s not a primary,

pesudo or otherwise.
[/quote]

Aim for the head. One of my favourite shots was on chapel, nailing a Proxy in the head right before she reached the EV at the beginning of the game.[/quote]

Headshotting with the Revivr does not address the fact that it is not that easy and consistent. Headshotting with a single shot weapon that has to be charged and be in the medium ish distance to do any heavy damage will never be more consistent and reliable than using any other primary weapon that is actually a primary.
That is a fact.
Even Rhino has an actual primary, and his special weapon can actually be used as a primary in close to medium distance.

(KUST__LunarTM) #19

You’d be surprised. I’ve seen many a Sparks players who are frustratingly accurate with the REVIVR. REVIVR headshots is practically the only way to play Sparks offensively, aside from derping around with melee Sparks.

(inscrutableShow) #20

[quote=“IAmYourDad;183875”][quote=“KUST;183872”][quote=“IAmYourDad;183866”]She needs to get some actual primary weapon, not secondaries.

But since SD won’t do that give her the katana so that she can actually be useful in cqc.

And no, Revivr is a sad excuse of a railgun. It’s not a reliable damage dealer. It’s not a primary,

pesudo or otherwise.
[/quote]

Aim for the head. One of my favourite shots was on chapel, nailing a Proxy in the head right before she reached the EV at the beginning of the game.[/quote]

Headshotting with the Revivr does not address the fact that it is not that easy and consistent. Headshotting with a single shot weapon that has to be charged and be in the medium ish distance to do any heavy damage will never be more consistent and reliable than using any other primary weapon that is actually a primary.
That is a fact.
Even Rhino has an actual primary, and his special weapon can actually be used as a primary in close to medium distance.
[/quote]

The thing is, she’s not supposed to ever have to fight. Sparks’ intended playstyle is to hang back and revive anybody that dies. The damage dealing side of the REVIVR was never intended to be the main aspect of her playstyle. The secondaries she has are fine for dealing with flankers. She’s not actually supposed to fight large amounts of enemies.