Some idea and improvement

(Black_Bird) #1

Hey !

I’ve been playing D.B. for a couple of weeks now and i’ve got a lot of ideas to propose.

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[] Nameplates : Like in most of FPS games tey’d could show player ranks / achievements or even a “player icon” drawn by himself like on b*****fields website or made by finishing differents acheivements which unlock colors/ icons.
[] Clans / Squads / Units : I think it may be interesting in the main lobby, to have a kind of “chat” for clan/squad/units research and for squads/clans/units talks. Those could offers clans/squad/units games where they’d fight in order to get prestige and some Nameplates/Players Icons.

This would -in my opinion- improve players cooperation and teamwork, which is not so much seen in Normal and Competitives games.
It could also open differents opportunity of events or even some tournaments
[]Ban list: No ! Not a list of people we don’t want to play with :stuck_out_tongue:
In my idea it would be kind of team chosen merc that the opposite can’t use or use but in a limited ammount (yeah it sound strange but i’m french and I sometime got troubles to express myself correctly, sorry ^^’)
This ideas is mostly to avoid the 5 times merc in Competitive plays, like 5 Rhinos hidden in orders to block the opposite team. That’s not that fair and ruins some games and even ruins the pleasure to play :confused: (5 Bushwaker, Nader etc, those kind of merc with really powerfull assault skills, yeah 5 Aura isn’t that powerfull xD )
Also, it would improve strategic choises and strategic plays and also, if the first team ban Fletcher for exemple, this team can’t take it either (that won’t be fair ^^).
[]Mercs personalization: Yeah, I know that with the cards you use on you merc, his skin / loadout would be differents, but what about Cards to get some “abilities” like, more mags, augmented area of healing effects etc, cards for Primary, Secondary and Knife/melee, which could be use to use the weapon we like and then have the possibility to apply dye/camo on mercs clothes and weapons. Those Dye /Camos would be unlock with acheivements/loadout boxes. The weapons cards would give the weapons some attachements related to the card, like :

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[] Gold SMG-9 Card N°01 : SMG-9 + Red Dot Sight + Front Grip + 3 rounds fire
[] Gold SMG-9 Card N°02 : SMG-9 + Iron Sight + no front grip + full auto fire
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[*]Loadout: Those Loadout would be related to mercs themselves. They would be unlock by playing the mercs, that sound logical, if plays Rhino more often than Proxy, why would you need Loadout on Proxy.
Each Merc could have a limited ammount of Loadout (like 3). Those Loadout would use the cards you got and you could name them, for exemple :

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[] Aura Loadout 1 : Aura Card N°01 + Bishlok Card N° 01 + M9 Card N°01 + Cricket Bat Card N°01
[] Aura Loadout 2 : Aura Card N°02 + Bishlok Card N° 02 + M9 Card N°02 + Cricket Bat Card N°02
[*] Aura Loadout 3 : Aura Card N°03 + Bishlok Card N° 03 + M9 Card N°03 + Cricket Bat Card N°03
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(Obviously, you could change each cards as long as they belong to the merc, you won’t be ables to use others mercs weapons as well, in order to avoid “too strong” mercs, like Rhino holding a heavy machingun, a little smg, a cricket bat and his minigun)
While your merc team can’t be change during the game, your Loadout could be each time you respawn, that means that you’d need to die, for fairplay obviously.
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Those are some ideas I got, I’ll be updating this list each time a new idea pops in my head ! :smiley:

Thanks for reading this, do not hesitate to comment.
Thanks to the dev for their hard work :smile: )

B_B.

P.S.: If you find any mistakes in this thread, do not hesitate to tell me, as I said, I’m french, but I’ll be happy to improve my english skills =) (The unproductive comments offensive or with the sole purpose of mocking are proscribed, moreover they’d be useless because they won’t hit me. :* )

(XavienX) #2

Your ideas wouldn’t harm the game, so it seems cool :slight_smile:

(Lumi) #3

I actually am against every single idea you proposed.

  1. Another mechanic to show off, which CoD and others have so well implemented. This is a team based game and we need cohesion more, than individual bragging.

2.There’s already a global chat and a team chat. I think it would just add confusion to add more chats. Now if you mean voice chat, in my experience it has always just been a place for people to say random shit (like not even words), yell, blast music or just speak in a language other than English. Never have I seen it used for actual game strategies or improvement. So pretty useless, as the only place where it could be useful (comp) people already use third party programs such as teamspeak or mumble.

3.No, you can’t tell people not to take what they’d want to. Especially if the person in question just owns a limited set of mercs. Better would be servers where one merc of each kind is limited and joining said server would be voluntary.

  1. No, loadouts are fair right now because everyone gets the same and their augments are balanced by the devs. Allowing people to mix and match their own set would lead to preferential configuration which ultimately everyone would end up playing and those who wouldn’t would be underpowered. Also there’s the pay to win elephant in the room.

  2. No, for the same reasons as 4. Now if I understood you correctly and on top of that you want people to be able to switch individual components from a loadout between deaths, I think you’re in the completely wrong game. Variation comes through different mercs, less from the loadouts. Adding more versatility and more ability to modify to ones wish, only pushes us closer to the pay to win situation. So never ever should it be like that. The loadouts are different than anything we’re used from other FPS games, yet it’s the only real solution that I’ve seen implemented for addressing pay to win situations and still keep everyone on the same level.

I hope you don’t see this as one of those comments to put you down. I’ve defined why they wouldn’t work and what negative changes they would bring. Now if you want to tell me in detail what the reasons behind wanting each improvement is, maybe we can find alternate solutions.

(SiegeFace) #4

I agree with no.2 but only if it was from the main menu or maybe as a global thing. But everything else would tarnish what DB is aiming for imo.

(Black_Bird) #5

[quote=“Lumi;97898”]I actually am against every single idea you proposed.

  1. Another mechanic to show off, which CoD and others have so well implemented. This is a team based game and we need cohesion more, than individual bragging.

2.There’s already a global chat and a team chat. I think it would just add confusion to add more chats. Now if you mean voice chat, in my experience it has always just been a place for people to say random shit (like not even words), yell, blast music or just speak in a language other than English. Never have I seen it used for actual game strategies or improvement. So pretty useless, as the only place where it could be useful (comp) people already use third party programs such as teamspeak or mumble.

3.No, you can’t tell people not to take what they’d want to. Especially if the person in question just owns a limited set of mercs. Better would be servers where one merc of each kind is limited and joining said server would be voluntary.

  1. No, loadouts are fair right now because everyone gets the same and their augments are balanced by the devs. Allowing people to mix and match their own set would lead to preferential configuration which ultimately everyone would end up playing and those who wouldn’t would be underpowered. Also there’s the pay to win elephant in the room.

  2. No, for the same reasons as 4. Now if I understood you correctly and on top of that you want people to be able to switch individual components from a loadout between deaths, I think you’re in the completely wrong game. Variation comes through different mercs, less from the loadouts. Adding more versatility and more ability to modify to ones wish, only pushes us closer to the pay to win situation. So never ever should it be like that. The loadouts are different than anything we’re used from other FPS games, yet it’s the only real solution that I’ve seen implemented for addressing pay to win situations and still keep everyone on the same level.

I hope you don’t see this as one of those comments to put you down. I’ve defined why they wouldn’t work and what negative changes they would bring. Now if you want to tell me in detail what the reasons behind wanting each improvement is, maybe we can find alternate solutions.
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1 - I think that if the success would be based on teamplay like “get 50 000 teamwork points” Nameplates and Icon won’t be the same shit like in CoD, but I understand your point, my goal was to give the player an opportunity to show is “creativity” and as you have to creat a 3 merc team, we’re kind of SMP so my point was to give the possibility to "show the orientation of our “smp” " or something like that, maybe the success base wasn’t a good idea but I think that it could be a good idea.

2 - I mean a chat in the main lobby, not in the game or in the in game lobby, during game you don’t have the time to chat to find ppl speaking the same language, find team or squad. My Goal is to alow player to find same language speaking player to team up, creat clans and then go in party together to play as a team, then the Team could use the in game chat (in case they’re a full team) or use a third party program

3 - That’s kind of my idea, this idea is more for competivie play and “ban list” would be a “search option” for player that want a more strategic gameplay instead of standard competitive games where defense got 5 time camping Rhino in every corner at the exit of your respawn. The idea is to offer player a more immersive teamwork and a more strategical view of the game / map.

4 / 5 - Those idea were just ideas but you’re right about the pay to win elephant. Maybe we could just have more differents cards to get more specification.

(Lumi) #6

  1. I don’t know what you mean by SMP.

  2. Okay, you mean something like a global chat in the lobby. I wouldn’t have anything against that. As long as I can either hide or disable it.

  3. Still have trouble getting it. You would want different kinds of servers? Where different minded people would go? Maybe starting with a thread and gathering people to join an empty server would be the way to go right now. I don’t know what kind of plans the devs have for the server divisions.

  4. Actually, more loadout cards are in the works. The devs even said there would be more weapons coming. So, I think the current 9 loadouts per merc are temporary. At least until they got all the mercs from the Alpha out. Then they will work on further loadouts.