so for anyone wanting to see the obsidian skin

(Cuck) #81

[quote=“RazielWarmonic;181126”][quote=“FrostyVampire;181123”]Why do people want the SMG so bad? Shotguns are a lot better (unless the map is Chapel).
Same with PDP, I don’t understand why would anyone ever want a PDP over a MOA or FEL-IX. Auto snipers suck, bolt action can insta kill anybody but Rhino and Thunder (which are not mercs you see often)[/quote]

Just different playstyles. :smile: Some people don’t really like the up and close combat that the shotgun forces you into.[/quote]

2016
people still not having fluid playstyles

(TheSeer) #82

[quote=“RazielWarmonic;181126”][quote=“FrostyVampire;181123”]Why do people want the SMG so bad? Shotguns are a lot better (unless the map is Chapel).
Same with PDP, I don’t understand why would anyone ever want a PDP over a MOA or FEL-IX. Auto snipers suck, bolt action can insta kill anybody but Rhino and Thunder (which are not mercs you see often)[/quote]

Just different playstyles. :smile: Some people don’t really like the up and close combat that the shotgun forces you into.[/quote]

I’m the opposite personally. I prefer the shotgun to the SMG, but I can use both depending on what I feel like playing. I got the SMG on my obsidian, but I’m not a huge fan of skin itself on Proxy, I prefer using my cobalt :stuck_out_tongue:
I do agree though with your however assessment @RazielWarmonic

(triteCherry) #83

It was decided that it was purposely going to be unclear?

SMG’s have better range, allowing you to be more effective in many areas in different maps unlike shotguns. I find them more flexable in a variety of situations, more then shotguns.

(LifeupOmega) #84

[quote=“FrostyVampire;181123”]Why do people want the SMG so bad? Shotguns are a lot better (unless the map is Chapel).
Same with PDP, I don’t understand why would anyone ever want a PDP over a MOA or FEL-IX. Auto snipers suck, bolt action can insta kill anybody but Rhino and Thunder (which are not mercs you see often)[/quote]

SMGs are superior to shotguns in almost every aspect, far more flexible, and aren’t a skilless crutch. On top of that they’re actually fun to fight.

The PDP is superior to anything as Redeye, but that’s just due to how his smoke interacts with the way the PDP works. The other two snipers? Not so much.

(Xenithos) #85

[quote=“LifeupOmega;181391”][quote=“FrostyVampire;181123”]Why do people want the SMG so bad? Shotguns are a lot better (unless the map is Chapel).
Same with PDP, I don’t understand why would anyone ever want a PDP over a MOA or FEL-IX. Auto snipers suck, bolt action can insta kill anybody but Rhino and Thunder (which are not mercs you see often)[/quote]

SMGs are superior to shotguns in almost every aspect, far more flexible, and aren’t a skilless crutch. On top of that they’re actually fun to fight.

The PDP is superior to anything as Redeye, but that’s just due to how his smoke interacts with the way the PDP works. The other two snipers? Not so much.[/quote]

Okay, just… slow down. Every weapon is good, ONLY as long as you can use it. M’kay? Mkay.

also, I’m not fully sure what you mean by “but that’s just due to how his smoke interacts with the way the PDP works”… Like… WHAT are you trying to SAY!?

(inscrutableShow) #86

On their Facebook page.

(frostyvampire) #87

[quote=“LifeupOmega;181391”][quote=“FrostyVampire;181123”]Why do people want the SMG so bad? Shotguns are a lot better (unless the map is Chapel).
Same with PDP, I don’t understand why would anyone ever want a PDP over a MOA or FEL-IX. Auto snipers suck, bolt action can insta kill anybody but Rhino and Thunder (which are not mercs you see often)[/quote]

SMGs are superior to shotguns in almost every aspect, far more flexible, and aren’t a skilless crutch. On top of that they’re actually fun to fight.

The PDP is superior to anything as Redeye, but that’s just due to how his smoke interacts with the way the PDP works. The other two snipers? Not so much.[/quote]

But shotguns deal much more damage, and are a lot better. SMG’s also are not very useful at long range (yes, they are better than shotguns but still not a weapon you should use at a long range). I just hate seeing a Hochfir Proxy or a Blishlok Aura or Fletcher, I think that shotgun mercs should use shotguns, just like SMG mercs use SMG’s and riflers use assault rifles.

PDP has a really bad recoil and can only 1 shot 5/20 mercs (I counted Turtle too). Sparks and Aimee are snipers too (don’t tell me Sparks isn’t, she has a scope and good accuracy and can 1 shot if she headshots you) so they can fight back and kill you first. Aura is usually hiding somewhere, which leaves Proxy and Kira. 2/20 = 10% of the mercs. Unlike MOA and FEL-IX which can insta kill any merc except Thunder and Rhino and both finish the enemy in one shot. Aimee can even one hit kill a Rhino with a FEL-IX headshot if SNITCH zaps him.
I don’t see any reason to use a PDP on Vassili or Aimee. Redeye is still ok because he can’t use any other sniper rifles but it makes more sense for the Grandeur on him because his smoke makes sense at mid range

(blonk) #88

Let’s hash out a hypothetical scenario if you’ll indulge (also I can’t start polls because I’m scrub):

Say that it was a fixed loadout - @RazielWarmonic’s statement was correct in the end, but instead of a hochfir loadout, everyone got H11 with the Hollunds and drilled (a loadout that was pegged as a keeper for a while, I love it personally). This would make some degree of sense - since humble loadout was a SMG and I’m sure others have mentioned other exclusive loadouts being hochfirs (can’t verify that personally).

Now the question is - how would you have responded, if that information wasn’t given out but it was a fixed card that you wouldn’t have liked? Would you have felt any better about the outcome and that your money was well invested?

What I would predict if that were the case, prior to the case unlocking the forum would have slowly filled up to bursting with threads demanding it to be a SMG loadout, then ultimately loads of seared eyes as people unbox their new H11, setting the forums ablaze. I’d love to know from people who are affected by this what their thoughts are.

(neverplayseriou) #89

[quote=“blonk;182211”]Let’s hash out a hypothetical scenario if you’ll indulge (also I can’t start polls because I’m scrub):

Say that it was a fixed loadout - @RazielWarmonic’s statement was correct in the end, but instead of a hochfir loadout, everyone got H11 with the Hollunds and drilled (a loadout that was pegged as a keeper for a while, I love it personally). This would make some degree of sense - since humble loadout was a SMG and I’m sure others have mentioned other exclusive loadouts being hochfirs (can’t verify that personally).

Now the question is - how would you have responded, if that information wasn’t given out but it was a fixed card that you wouldn’t have liked? Would you have felt any better about the outcome and that your money was well invested?

What I would predict if that were the case, prior to the case unlocking the forum would have slowly filled up to bursting with threads demanding it to be a SMG loadout, then ultimately loads of seared eyes as people unbox their new H11, setting the forums ablaze. I’d love to know from people who are affected by this what their thoughts are.[/quote]

that would’ve still been more fair than what sd did now, that way everyone who paid for the pack would get the exact same card, now however some people get something good and others get something completely useless even though they’ve spend the exact same amount of money on the pack.

(RazielWarmonic) #90

It was decided that it was purposely going to be unclear?
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Cheeky! :tongue: Not what I meant. To clarify, we didn’t decide we weren’t going to be unclear, we just flat out weren’t clear. We didn’t decide either way basically.

(pumpkinmeerkat) #91

[quote=“RazielWarmonic;182315”]

Cheeky! :tongue: Not what I meant. To clarify, we didn’t decide we weren’t going to be unclear, we just flat out weren’t clear. We didn’t decide either way basically.[/quote]

This is confusing.

(inscrutableShow) #92

[quote=“pumpkinmeerkat;182323”][quote=“RazielWarmonic;182315”]

Cheeky! :tongue: Not what I meant. To clarify, we didn’t decide we weren’t going to be unclear, we just flat out weren’t clear. We didn’t decide either way basically.[/quote]

This is confusing. [/quote]

They didn’t know what they were going to do.

Raz, please talk in plain English, some of these people can’t figure out what you were trying to say (It took me a minute).

(pumpkinmeerkat) #93

[quote=“inscrutableShow;182337”]

They didn’t know what they were going to do.

Raz, please talk in plain English, some of these people can’t figure out what you were trying to say (It took me a minute).[/quote]

I just think it’s a good idea to be as clear as possible when clarifying something people are upset about.

(triteCherry) #94

In the future I hope that SD communicates their event to the public in a precise and understandable manner. I also hope that SD fully plans out future events fully ahead of time and not waiting until the last minute to decide on certain aspects. Especially in areas where actual money is concerned, otherwise it looks like your trying to screw over your customers whether that is your true intention or not.

@RazielWarmonic You took that passive aggressive comment like a champ though. Rare to see community managers that are actually good at the job in the free to play market.

(RazielWarmonic) #95

[quote=“pumpkinmeerkat;182323”][quote=“RazielWarmonic;182315”]

Cheeky! :tongue: Not what I meant. To clarify, we didn’t decide we weren’t going to be unclear, we just flat out weren’t clear. We didn’t decide either way basically.[/quote]

This is confusing. [/quote]

There was no decision on whether to be clear, not clear, or how clear we were going to be about this particular thing. We just kind of winged it in the end.

As @inscrutableShow said, we didn’t know what we were doing in terms of clarity on it.

Regardless, obviously it didn’t work out. You live and learn!

I try to be. I understand your guys’ frustration, thick skin goes a long way as well. :smile: :heart: