So... EasyAntiCheat. Let's talk about it.

[K1X455]

well i,ve been playing DB off n on since 2015 and i got to say i,ve only seen one hacker in Dirty Bomb and as far as EAC i think it’s a pretty good thing to have in DB i,ve seen it in other games and it work’s pretty good

2 tons bold credibility there. Very bold…

My recommendation is play regularly some more; go to regions… make friends… have fun… and earn your pound of salt.

[GatoCommodore]

not seeing any does not mean its not there

[ThunderZsolt]

[quote=“GatoCommodore;c-223091”]
weapon damage hacks exist

i got 2 body shot by dreiss in red eye then i suddenly got gibbed
i thought it was a lag of some kind

turns out his team was 6 damage hackers+2 newbies

me and my team was pretty confused when they 3 or 2 shot by anything then they are dead

but this is back on NGS era
i havent ecounter anything like this again[/quote]

I can confirm that they existed. I’ve played against a Nader who was constantly 1shotting me with bodyshots - from the other side of Chapel.

Haven’t seeny anything like this since EAC launched though

[ClemClem7]

It’s always the same thing, people are complaining about hackers every match, and I’m here, with only 4 or 5 hackers seen in 800 hours in dirty bomb.
I know people who are 100% legit but people like OP are complaining in chat that he’s cheating (like “kick him he’s a blatant cheater”). Players like that just think nobody can be better.
As some people already said, spectate before any hackusation.

[CyberVonCyberus]

to be fair i still haven’t encountered any cheaters yet during my playtime, so i can’t exactly say whether it works or not
however ever since EAC came in i definitevly had an improvement in my framerate

[Amerika]

not seeing any does not mean its not there

They are out there for sure. But the amount of actual cheaters I’ve seen are pretty low in my time played DB. Yet I have a YT channel filled with probably a couple hundred hours of play where, in many of those videos, myself or other were called cheaters by one or more people. And that’s only the recorded stuff.

That’s why you constantly see people cite their experiences in threads like these. Some people simply don’t think that other players are capable of what they are capable of and resort to calling them cheaters. It’s way more common to see people yelling cheats than seeing actual cheaters by a large margin. And it only takes a few people yelling that the building is on fire before others believe it as well.

I’ve had people submit videos to me, even people I know are pretty good players, of people “cheating” that weren’t cheating at all. Every single death was easily accounted for via being sighted, heard, better positioning and simply better aim. Only once did a video I watched end up being a cheater and they were obviously aimbotting with body shots only turned on with a secondary weapon.

Every game goes through this. Go to any FPS and you’ll find your surly crowd of people who insist everyone is cheating and the AC system sucks. Literally every single game. That’s why I constantly stress educating yourself and others on how AC systems work, what they can and cannot do, the different layers of anti-cheating available, which ones your games use and asking the devs to implement more options. You won’t be able to stop cheating but you can definitely try to put a dent in it while also putting a huge dent in the PERCEPTION of cheating which is just as detrimental. Saying things like, “not seeing any does not mean its not there”, helps nobody and is only said to scare others into a false way of thinking.

[GatoCommodore]

@Amerika_KC maybe because it does exist, and not saying anything about it is ignorant.
i encourage people to report because even i sometimes cant differentiate between whats cheating and whats not until i spectate or someone show me the video. Most of the time i just think its skill up to the point that its blatantly shown.

[Amerika]

[quote=“GatoCommodore;c-224110”]@Amerika_KC maybe because it does exist, and not saying anything about it is ignorant.
i encourage people to report because even i sometimes cant differentiate between whats cheating and whats not until i spectate or someone show me the video. Most of the time i just think its skill up to the point that its blatantly shown.

[/quote]

There is a difference between saying, “cheaters exist” and “cheaters exist and this is how often I’ve seen them, this is exactly what they were doing and this is how I think we could combat what I’ve seen”.

Yelling out that the building is on fire doesn’t help people very much. Yelling out that he building is on fire, where the fire is coming from and what exits are safe to use based on your knowledge is extremely helpful. I think you would agree that there is a big difference here.

Nobody is saying not to talk about cheating. That’s exactly why these threads don’t get closed if you didn’t notice. Constructive and informed discussions and learning is encouraged in these types of threads. We could just lock all of them down and say, “please report all issues to support” and call it a day. But that’s the easy thing to do and it also doesn’t help anybody understand what can and cannot be done. And I also won’t take the easy path by allowing people to simply say, “cheaters exist omfg AC system you’re broke fix it devs you’re all awful how can this happen?”. It’s a lot of effort mentally to try and stop posts like that from happening but I’m still trying all these years later in yet another game. People leave games because of posts like that (both the people who posted it and the people reading that believe it) when they simply aren’t very good at detailing the ACTUAL situation.

[watsyurdeal]

Damn Amerika, killing it

Pretty much agreed, especially when people keep saying the game is infested with cheaters or something along those lines, I’m almost ready to tell them they just suck at the game. Cause in reality if you have the mindset that oh they are cheating that’s not possible, that basically makes you close minded, and no intention of actually trying to improve to get to that level of play.

[GatoCommodore]

@Amerika_KC i didnt say the game infested with it, but sometime later people will see another hackwave/cheatwave.

Having a digital wall being penetrated is inevitable in online games.

also, did i say the game is infested with cheater? i mean

[quote=“GatoCommodore;c-223091”]

but this is back on NGS era
i havent ecounter anything like this again[/quote]

maybe right now there are people that still trying to prod at EAC to find a hole in the system. From what i learn, computer geeks loves to prod at Anticheats to test their skill.

[Amerika]

[quote=“GatoCommodore;c-224123”]@Amerika_KC i didnt say the game infested with it, but sometime later people will see another hackwave/cheatwave.

Having a digital wall being penetrated is inevitable in online games.

also, did i say the game is infested with cheater? i mean

[quote=“GatoCommodore;c-223091”]

but this is back on NGS era
i havent ecounter anything like this again[/quote]

maybe right now there are people that still trying to prod at EAC to find a hole in the system. From what i learn, computer geeks loves to prod at Anticheats to test their skill.[/quote]

I quoted and spoke about the comment I was referring to. Simply saying what you said is a big part of the problem as people can and will read it out of context. Especially if it’s something they have already convinced themselves is true regardless of it actually being true.

Small comments, or in your case pictures most often, tend to be taken out of context quite easily.

[PeterComputer]

Just a quick update, I’ve not seen a cheater in more than two weeks, so I’m glad so say that you guys were right, most cheaters have been banned by now and EAC seems to be holding up now that it has settles down. Or I’m just getting luckier with my matches.

And just to finish this, I wholeheartedly agree with Amerika on pretty much everything.

[quote=“Amerika_KC;c-224128”]
Small comments, or in your case pictures most often, tend to be taken out of context quite easily.[/quote]

Yep, this is probably why you should use the spectator view. It’s there for a reason. I know people have said that sometimes it doesn’t make it clear whether someone is cheating or not but it’s better than getting killed 3 times by the same dude and calling hax.

Anyways, I think that’s all.

[AnonyBOSS]

Well tbh Amerika, if you could give us your rundown on how EAC works, it would be better than arguing over its effectiveness. Better awareness of the AC system would not only allow for understanding by the legitimate community, but also allow for more leniency on the AC system. Sure, no system is perfect, but if we understand the system better, we can actually begin to give insightful advice and tips to the devs as we, the players, actually play the game.

tl;dr
Amerika, pls give us ur rundown of EAC
this will allow us as a community to understand better (as you previously stated) and give more helpful advice to the devs.

Thanks