SMG-9 Needs an update, the most useless gun the the game.

(KangaJoo) #21

[quote=“omegaskorpion;28598”]If SMG-9 gets buffed, it would be small buff, to make it better, It would not replace anything but it would be good.
RIght now even with good percs, that gun sucks so much that those percs dont realy matter.
What is the point of percs if your gun cant help you to survive long enough to make them effecive.

People say that blishlok is bad but i would say its one of the best, its hard choise between Crotzni and blishlok for me, i can kill with both with mostly same effectiveness, I dont realy care what charts say so long as the weapon it self handless good in the battle field, maybe others feel that blishlok is useless but that could also mean that it has higher skill cap, i dont know which.

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The blishlok doesn’t have a higher skillcap, though. In order for that to be the case it would need to actually have an advantage over the other guns and a disadvantage that can be worked around if the player is good enough. For example, if it had the shortest TTK in the game but the most recoil and the lowest RoF then it would be a very effective gun with a higher skillcap than the rest. Coincidentally, that’s how the blishlok used to be and then they nerfed it into oblivion :smiley:

(Gi.Am) #22

Thing is the weapons are all fairly close together and quite often it really comes down to personal preferences towards their handling.

The Blishlok still has the highest per bullet damage of all the full automatic weapons (including the k-121) and keeps this damage advantage even at long range. It edges out on ttk against several Mercs compared to the hochfire and the SMG-9. And it is the best gun for quickly cleaning up allready wounded mercs since they might only need 1-2 hits.

The blishlok will become very inaccurate very quickly and has very unpredicable recoil patterns (which makes sense considering so much power in a small package). So if you prefer to spray your weapon it is clearly a bad gun, great for those that tapfire tho.

Similar the SMG-9, yes most metrics are slightly in favour for the Crotzni but the SMG-9 is defnitive easier to control (less recoil, less affected by movement, stays more accurate over time) and is good for players that prefer spraying over short bursts.

Or look at the Dreiss, for another example how handling is a important factor. Alot of people hate the gun claiming that the burstfire rifles and automatics are way better, in every regards. Yet others seem to be so good with it that the gun gets one nerf after another.

(Eox) #23

The Blishlok shouldn’t had recieve it’s accuracy nerf. It’s arguable the worst SMG in the game since. I seriously think that the SMG-9 is better than it. I really think the Blishlok was okay before it’s nerf.

SMG-9 maybe could recieve a damage buff instead of a precision buff (going from 12 to 13 damage per bullet), it makes sense one bullet from the SMG-9 is as damageful as one bullet from the Crotzni, but SMG-9 has a worse RPM. A precision buff is fine too though.

(omegaskorpion) #24

[quote=“Eox;34201”]The Blishlok shouldn’t had recieve it’s accuracy nerf. It’s arguable the worst SMG in the game since. I seriously think that the SMG-9 is better than it. I really think the Blishlok was okay before it’s nerf.

SMG-9 maybe could recieve a damage buff instead of a precision buff (going from 12 to 13 damage per bullet), it makes sense one bullet from the SMG-9 is as damageful as one bullet from the Crotzni, but SMG-9 has a worse RPM. A precision buff is fine too though.[/quote]

i would find that ironic, since smg-9 uses 9mm bullets but Crotzni uses rifle bullets.

I would give damage increase to Crotzni but swap everything els between the smg-9. (aka smg-9 with Crotzni stats and Crotzni with smg-9 stats but with better damage)