Small thought on Thunder and Fragger's LMGs

(Reddeadcap) #1

I want to bring up a discussion on Thunder’s and Fragger’s Light Machine Guns, the K-121 and the MK46 respectively. If you played back when these weren’t swapped, I’d like to bring up why they make perfect sense for their original merc or at least for them to have access to these for the price of burst rifles.

The K-121 was given to Fragger and the MK46 was given to Thunder due to the fact that before the K-121 was awful in comparison, maybe making it serve a tier bellow Thunder’s minigun, a rapid fire/low damage weapon.

Why do these make no sense as they are now?
In Thunder’s case, his high health makes him a good damage sponge but his lack of speed makes him better at fighting close-mid/mid-long range, especially if a concussion grenade is thrown.
That along with the blinding effect or vision disrupting effect of his grenades, Thunder could toss a grenade and quickly kill at a long distance enemies with the higher damage/lower rate of fire K-121.

In Fragger’s case, due to his higher mobility, access to more powerful pistols and actually damaging grenades which can be cooked and tossed at closer ranges he fits a lot more in the concept of being a close/mid range pointman, especially if a frag grenade was to be thrown.
With a well cooked grenade, Fragger could toss a grenade and follow through, killing off enemies injured by his grenades if not outright killed and still have the ammo to fight off those who aren’t even hurt.

I’d like to also bring up burst rifle for their loadouts, while it makes sense that these are to fill a long range alternative to these Mercs, Burst rifles don’t seam all that fitting as Assaults should be closer to the thick of a fight. In a case of not swapping the LMGs, why not replace them with the burst rifles, making the automatic rifles as a lower ammo capacity but higher reload speed alternative to the K-121 and the MK46 seeing as many mercs have access to at least one weapon that could be an analogue of their defaults (Proxy/Aura, Stoker/Thunder, SMG mercs, Rhino/Fletcher)?

(BananaSlug) #2

yes i would change timmik with k 121 in his loadouts, because he needs that killing potential
because now he can blind 5 people, only manage to kil 1/2 and then dies

(watsyurdeal) #3

Honestly I’d like it if there were new cards added in the next few months rather than new mercs, 9 new cards, each with the other weapons that aren’t available currently.

So Fragger would get 3 timik cards, 3 mk46 cards, and 3 stark ar cards, and Thunder would get 3 k 121 cards, 3 m4 cards, and 3 br 16 cards.

(Tanker_Ray) #4

In current state, just buffing MK.46’s damage to 12 or make it accurate as Kek and increasing bullet capacity is perfect solution.

It’s just very funny that time made K-121 as real powerhouse machinegun, and MK.46 turned into huge fat Kek-10 with low damage and high bullet spread.

But your idea is great.

Fragger and Nader using same weapon with the others except K-121 is alright, because they have other AoE damage abilities.

But Thunder? he depends on his primary weapon more than other mercs, since his conc nade is for helping his kiling out.

If SD isn’t going to change Thunder’s absurd HP amount which is placed right in-between Fire support and Rhino 120 + 40 = 160 = 200 - 40, he deserves more firepower for sure.

I would definitely welcome the idea about making the automatic rifles as a lower ammo capacity with high firepower, but higher reload speed(not as slow as machinegun).

(Reddeadcap) #5

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;133875”]Honestly I’d like it if there were new cards added in the next few months rather than new mercs, 9 new cards, each with the other weapons that aren’t available currently.

So Fragger would get 3 timik cards, 3 mk46 cards, and 3 stark ar cards, and Thunder would get 3 k 121 cards, 3 m4 cards, and 3 br 16 cards.[/quote]
I’d love that, but the thought focus is that the LMGs fit more their original mercs, especially when used in conjunction with their special ability.

Along with the fact all media depicts them with their original weapons and don’t gain access to them.

(Herr_Hanz) #6

thunder isnt thunder without the mk46 for me. i love that gun. all i want is it buffed. seeing how its compared to the kek-10 i suppose we can make it a kek-10 with more ammo. i like the kek-10 as well