shuffle & leavers

(Aerodrome) #1

hi. before this good update im worry about shuffle & leavers.
we need the punishment for leavers … something like ~250 contribution points

shuffle … its a main problem. i hate this button. its not a problem when here a lot high lvl players
its ± balanced or someone coming soon after leavers.
but now … its pain.
we need auto shuffle option.
for example:
im playing from beginning of the match … i dont wanna come to another team coz im already did a lot to win.
shuffle option must come from another team … and who wanna help other team CLICK THIS BUTTON and go another team.
Also, auto shuffle for balance only players who dont playing from the beginning

(Aerodrome) #2

what is going now:
im tryharding trying to kill everyone, playing for win … but when 2nd round comes i got a shuffle and come to a enemy team.
its not good. its disappointment. after this sometimes im afk whole 2nd round or even leave.

Auto Shuffle can work AFTER OWN DEATH! Gameplay not affected

(GatoCommodore) #3

@Aerodrome said:
what is going now:
im tryharding trying to kill everyone, playing for win … but when 2nd round comes i got a shuffle and come to a enemy team.
its not good. its disappointment. after this sometimes im afk whole 2nd round or even leave.

Auto Shuffle can work AFTER OWN DEATH! Gameplay not affected

wait what?
there is autoshuffle now?

(Press E) #4

I’m having a hard time understanding your post, but having leaver penalties in casual is just a bad thing. Yeah leavers suck, but people will usually join in quickly anyways, even in the server browser.

A shuffle option that only switched volunteer players would completely defeat the purpose though. Yeah, it can be annoying to be shuffled, but who cares really. It’s just a game, not like winning really matters in casual. You can still win a game after shuffling too. Shuffling on round 2 is a pain sometimes as well, but it can be very useful, considering a lot of people leave around the half way point.

Only shuffling a player after their death would be problematic too and create a lot of confusion as your team keeps constantly changing. Not to mention some skilled players just rarely die too, whether it’s through revives or whatnot, you could have someone running around waiting to be shuffled for several minutes, and during that time teams would still be unbalanced and the other team would be a man down.

(Aerodrome) #5

@GatoCommodore said:
wait what?
there is autoshuffle now?
i wanna auto shuffle

@STARRYSOCK said:
Yeah leavers suck, but people will usually join in quickly anyways, even in the server browser.
-250 contribution points its good price for leavers or not?) i think its fair …coz here too many leavers sometimes. Its too easy to Join or Leave if u something dont like …

@STARRYSOCK said:
A shuffle option that only switched volunteer players would completely defeat the purpose though. Yeah, it can be annoying to be shuffled, but who cares really. It’s just a game, not like winning really matters in casual. You can still win a game after shuffling too.
winning game its main process in-game. sometimes its hard to win stopwatch mode after 1 round or even impossible.
i just wanna dont shuffle if i’m not voting!
Here many opinions for shuffle … someone think its good, but here also players who dont do it. I can afk after shuffle, so … shuffle its a bad for whole team. Its not the solution for players who dont vote for this.

(Press E) #6

@Aerodrome said:
-250 contribution points its good price for leavers or not?) i think its fair …coz here too many leavers sometimes. Its too easy to Join or Leave if u something dont like …

Leavers already don’t get any credits, mission progress or XP for leaving a match. All they do is waste their own time and their credit booster.

Considering how often DB crashes, adding in more penalties is just overkill. 250 credits wouldn’t be enough to stop people either, you’d have to introduce a large penalty, which would completely defeat the purpose of playing casual.

winning game its main process in-game. sometimes its hard to win stopwatch mode after 1 round or even impossible.
i just wanna dont shuffle if i’m not voting!
Here many opinions for shuffle … someone think its good, but here also players who dont do it. I can afk after shuffle, so … shuffle its a bad for whole team. Its not the solution for players who dont vote for this.

You hating shuffle doesn’t make shuffle bad. I can go AFK if there’s a vassili on my team too. That doesn’t make vassili bad or mean SD should remove vassili, it just means I’m an asshole who wastes everyone’s time, including my own.

Like I said, it’s casual, who cares if you win, what matters is that you had a good match. And considering how hard it can be to get a shuffle to pass, when they do it’s usually needed quite a lot. I’d much rather shuffle and potentially lose than spawncamp the other team, it’s just not a test of skill, and you might as well play a single player game for that

(Aerodrome) #7

@STARRYSOCK said:
You hating shuffle doesn’t make shuffle bad. I can go AFK if there’s a vassili on my team too.
i did this today also. we cant win having 2 vassili and im joining enemy team in 2nd round :slight_smile:

Ok. Can i get option for shuffle:
if i click button NO … can i have chances dont go to the enemy team?
if i dont click (or ignore or forget to do this) i can move to the other team
i think its good

(Press E) #8

@Aerodrome said:
if i click button NO … can i have chances dont go to the enemy team?
if i dont click (or ignore or forget to do this) i can move to the other team
i think its good

Idk what the point of that would be though, unless you really prefer defenders or attackers or whatever. I mean, the rest of your team is still switching. Just because you were winning doesn’t mean you’ll keep doing well after your teammates have been switched.

Besides, in order for shuffle to be effective everyone has to take part in it, otherwise it’s pretty much pointless. If one team has 3 really good players and those players choose to stay on the same team, then nothing really changes.

Ik snuffle can be annoying, but there’s really not much you can do to fix that unfortunately. It’s not really that much of a big deal anyways though. Even if you don’t win, you’re only losing out on the 500 xp win bonus, which is next to nothing. Just play aura for 30 seconds, lol

(Aerodrome) #9

@STARRYSOCK said:

Besides, in order for shuffle to be effective everyone has to take part in it, otherwise it’s pretty much pointless. If one team has 3 really good players and those players choose to stay on the same team, then nothing really changes.

Ik snuffle can be annoying, but there’s really not much you can do to fix that unfortunately. It’s not really that much of a big deal anyways though. Even if you don’t win, you’re only losing out on the 500 xp win bonus

sometimes i dont understand your logic.
if shuffle so useless … why players always wanna do this? 3-5 times per match or more?
why i wanna disable this button at all?
i coming to the game … i wanna win with all my teamates and im playing against some other players and i dont wanna come to enemy team and leave my own team.
is it hard for u to understand this simple thing?

(Aerodrome) #10

Its like … for example:
u playing with ur friends on the street and suddenly here come 5 another players … kick ur ass, then kick ass of ur girlfriend … and u after this:
ok guys. maybe shuffle?

(n-x) #11

What’s wrong with you? You state, you are happy that ranked (the try hard mode) is gone. And then you brag about how you always play to win in casual mode. You are annoyed by leavers but you go AFK if you dislike the vote shuffle? Not the leavers are the douchebags for leaving and should get penalized. You are pulling a dick move by sabotaging your team.

(Mr.Cuddlesworth) #12

punishing players may make more of them leave the game-permanently

(D'@athi) #13

Yes, Aerodrome, we need some autoshuffle on server-browser-games. We needed it a long time ago on the server-browser, but then, the answer was we would get CMM.
Now, that CMM is over, and done, and killed, and found not to be suited, probably we are back to the 3! year old begging for auto-shuffle…
Joking, as if they would offer us some CMM in the future…

Btw… Anyone of you really thinking, that someone with coding-skills still is allowed to work on DB?

(GatoCommodore) #14

@Aerodrome said:

@STARRYSOCK said:

Besides, in order for shuffle to be effective everyone has to take part in it, otherwise it’s pretty much pointless. If one team has 3 really good players and those players choose to stay on the same team, then nothing really changes.

Ik snuffle can be annoying, but there’s really not much you can do to fix that unfortunately. It’s not really that much of a big deal anyways though. Even if you don’t win, you’re only losing out on the 500 xp win bonus

sometimes i dont understand your logic.
if shuffle so useless … why players always wanna do this? 3-5 times per match or more?

because its abuse button to change their side to winning side.
its a robbery

(Aerodrome) #15

@n-x said:
What’s wrong with you? You state, you are happy that ranked (the try hard mode) is gone. And then you brag about how you always play to win in casual mode.
its Stopwatch ranked. not Objective ranked!
its not tryhard mode … its stupid mode for fighting time … where players not focusing on OBJ :stuck_out_tongue:

@n-x said:
You are annoyed by leavers but you go AFK if you dislike the vote shuffle? Not the leavers are the douchebags for leaving and should get penalized. You are pulling a dick move by sabotaging your team.
what is that man? where is ur logic?
i wanna punishment leavers and total dislike vote shufflers = i wanna play same team all the time => dont wanna afk if this happen
Why the hell i need to listen some my dumb teamates who wanna shuffle? If they wanna shuffle => go shuffle => why they wanna Shuffle me?? :o

(n-x) #16

I seriously have problems understanding you. But you are talking about shuffle. There is no shuffle in ranked. There is only shuffle in server browser. And server browser is intended for dropping in and out and casual playing.

And still. Going AFK for not liking the result of the shuffle makes you an asshole.

(Aerodrome) #17

@n-x said:
There is no shuffle in ranked. There is only shuffle in server browser. And server browser is intended for dropping in and out and casual playing.
here a lot good games in server browser sometimes. U can call it casual … or lame but sometimes its not true. Its a different type of game with other good moments and problems

@n-x said:
And still. Going AFK for not liking the result of the shuffle makes you an @$!#.
maybe. but its not my choice. u must be ready for this if u wanna shuffle :slight_smile: players already did a @$!# to me, why i need to play seriously? i dont wanna liberate this and play by this rules again and again

(Szakalot) #18

@Aerodrome said:

@n-x said:
There is no shuffle in ranked. There is only shuffle in server browser. And server browser is intended for dropping in and out and casual playing.
here a lot good games in server browser sometimes. U can call it casual … or lame but sometimes its not true. Its a different type of game with other good moments and problems

@n-x said:
And still. Going AFK for not liking the result of the shuffle makes you an @$!#.
maybe. but its not my choice. u must be ready for this if u wanna shuffle :slight_smile: players already did a @$!# to me, why i need to play seriously? i dont wanna liberate this and play by this rules again and again

terrorist logic. ‘Victims of the suicide attack blew themselves up. If they didn’t support a tyrannical regime, we wouldn’t have to blow them up’.

Well played. trololol

(Aerodrome) #19

@Szakalot said:
terrorist logic. ‘Victims of the suicide attack blew themselves up. If they didn’t support a tyrannical regime, we wouldn’t have to blow them up’.

Well played. trololol
terrorist logic is the main part of this game :slight_smile: