Should the enemy team be allowed votes in shuffle?


(crabbyWaltz) #1

I generaly vote yes when we are stomping but every time my team needs a shuffle the enemy team spams the NO vote. so I want to know what is supposed to be fair in the shuffle system since we know everyone on the enemy team is going to vote ¨no¨ and most of the time people probably don’t even see the shuffle vote or know how to vote since I have encountered people who couldn’t see the objective stolen warning and complained about not seeing it and that warning is bigger than the shuffle one. Should the enemy team be allowed to vote but only vote yes? Since otherwise they are just going to try and stop the vote. Should we get a bigger warning for the vote? since people don’t even seem notice it. Is there something else that could be done to fix this?


(RyePanda) #2

Yes, the enemy team must be able to vote. Too many times a team that has been stopped for 5 minutes or a team that sees a high level will call a shuffle vote when really the game is balanced.


(SereneFlight) #3

If the enemy team doesn’t really try to get the objectives done/ try to stop us from doing objectives, I bloody well do want to stop them from shuffling or if they’re trying so hard but can’t get anything done, I gladly vote ‘yes’ or even call the vote by myself.
So… yes.


(LifeupOmega) #4

Why shouldn’t the enemy team, who are also playing the game, be allowed to vote? If you exclude one half of the players in a game that includes all the players, how would that be fair?

It’s not their job to let your team win anyway, and, again, pubs will never be balanced etc etc let’s all go play MM instead.


(N8o) #5

We had this level 5 in our game yesterday that somehow managed to shuffle the teams every single time we planted.
I defused my own c4 about 6 times.

It’s almost as if the second that people start losing, they think teams are not balanced and call a shuffle to stop from taking a loss.

So yes, people should be able to shuffle from both teams, but people need to learn when a game is unbalanced, and when they aren’t playing the objective correctly.


(Backuplight) #6

The enemy team voting no doesn’t do anything other than demonstrate that they don’t want a vote - it has no influence on whether a vote takes place, so long as you get your team +1 to vote yes. It’s fine as it is.

Just because they repaired the EV and got it moving doesn’t mean you should shuffle, as people in my games seem to feel regularly.


(Borganism) #7

I agree on the bigger warning for the vote. Even bringing it up in chat doesnt bring it to everyones attention, and even if I had voice, I can only talk to my team.

Everyone should get a vote tho for the above mentioned reasons.

Another thing tho, I think that shuffle votes after 60% (or whatever) or the time is gone should be disabled. Most of the time I see a shuffle vote it is still getting spammed with 30 seconds to go. All that will do if it succeeds is ruin the outcome of the game and piss people off.


(Jostabeere) #8

For certain votes yes. And for some, no. We need an in.game reason for votes. Like Cheating, AFK, insulting and so on.
Cheating should be voted by both teams, while AFK only by one team.
Since enemies will always vote no about an AFK, so tey have an enemy less to fight. And the team that has a cheater will probably vote no, since they need their prescious win.