Should Phantom be the only one able to use the katana since he was the one debuted with it?


(Ronan) #21

Even so, I’d just not like to see someone that isn’t so… well, ninja-based, in a sense, using it, y’know? I’d be fine with some hard-hitting mobile person using it, maybe make different variations of the katana? A shorter version, broad version, etc.


(Lispy) #22

The way they advertised Phantom it made me think the katana was as much apart of him as his cloak so I would like to see it stay on just him.


(GregHouseMD) #23

I honestly can’t bring myself to form an actual opinion on this. It really just feels like someone’s being overly territorial about a weapon. It’s already been stated others may have access to it. I also think it’d be unfortunate for any weapon to be unique to one merc specifically. It’s really just unnecessary.


(Ronan) #24

Who else could you see using it, then? If I may ask. The faster mercs like Proxy, Aura, etc are just fine using the cricket bat. The katana wouldn’t work on them.

Skyhammer? Turtle? Stoker? We also have to think realistically who it’d be proper on to use.

As Lispy said, we were lead to believe that the katana was for Phantom alone. I mean, fer fucks sake, his photo has it, and every single loadout.

Not unless they ‘may’ is for a merc like Phantom, or stealthy based coming out at a later time.


(titaniumCrouton) #25

Doesn’t mean they should. It’s his thing, he should be the only one to get it. or should we be giving fraggers k-121 to everyone else as well?[/quote]

Actually, I am pretty sure that Thunder will be able to use the K-121 when he’ll be available.[/quote]

A bit late but incorrect. Thunder will get an LMG but it isn’t the K-121, it’s an entirely seperate. It has more ammo, faster fire rate and less damage. MG something if I recall.


(BushDweller) #26

Doesn’t mean they should. It’s his thing, he should be the only one to get it. or should we be giving fraggers k-121 to everyone else as well?[/quote]

Actually, I am pretty sure that Thunder will be able to use the K-121 when he’ll be available.[/quote]

A bit late but incorrect. Thunder will get an LMG but it isn’t the K-121, it’s an entirely seperate. It has more ammo, faster fire rate and less damage. MG something if I recall.
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Isn’t it the MG that is on the mounted guns, just less accurate, and has an ammo count


(Ronan) #27

Doesn’t mean they should. It’s his thing, he should be the only one to get it. or should we be giving fraggers k-121 to everyone else as well?[/quote]

Actually, I am pretty sure that Thunder will be able to use the K-121 when he’ll be available.[/quote]

A bit late but incorrect. Thunder will get an LMG but it isn’t the K-121, it’s an entirely seperate. It has more ammo, faster fire rate and less damage. MG something if I recall.
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Isn’t it the MG that is on the mounted guns, just less accurate, and has an ammo count
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I believe so.


(Jojack) #28

I saw a Nexxon stream with Miss Murder and someone else discuss the Katana. The way I understood it, is on any load out with the cricket bat, you could choose either the bat or the katana. Any merc could do this.

It’s possible I misunderstood them, but I’m pretty sure that’s what they were saying.

Having said that, they weren’t developers and it was on the first day Phantom was released. Things can change.

Personally, I would love a Katana on my Kira, but I’m not sure it would feel right. She is the only merc I can think of that it sort of fits though…being Japanese and all.

I’d prefer a stilleto on everyone else, personally.

Also, I’m not sure why a merc needs to be stealth based to use a katana. When I think Katana, I think Samurai, not Ninja.


(GregHouseMD) #29

[quote=“bistreVittle;54184”]
Who else could you see using it, then? If I may ask. The faster mercs like Proxy, Aura, etc are just fine using the cricket bat. The katana wouldn’t work on them.

Skyhammer? Turtle? Stoker? We also have to think realistically who it’d be proper on to use.[/quote]

You’re really, really over-thinking this. What does ‘realistically’ even mean in this context? Wait, no, I don’t actually care. Because unless there’s a balance issue ( which there might be with the faster mercs ), it’s just silly to claim it’s more ‘realistic’ for one merc or another to use it. This has no more to do with realism than going to war with cricket bats.

[quote=“bistreVittle;54184”]
As Lispy said, we were lead to believe that the katana was for Phantom alone. I mean, fer fucks sake, his photo has it, and every single loadout.[/quote]

I think you mean you ‘assumed’, not ‘were led to believe’. Phantom doesn’t even have the katana on all his loadouts - it’s on a minority of them.


(titaniumCrouton) #30

Doesn’t mean they should. It’s his thing, he should be the only one to get it. or should we be giving fraggers k-121 to everyone else as well?[/quote]

Actually, I am pretty sure that Thunder will be able to use the K-121 when he’ll be available.[/quote]

A bit late but incorrect. Thunder will get an LMG but it isn’t the K-121, it’s an entirely seperate. It has more ammo, faster fire rate and less damage. MG something if I recall.
[/quote]

Isn’t it the MG that is on the mounted guns, just less accurate, and has an ammo count
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not entirely sure but you can use this video for reference to check yourself :slight_smile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdvvtO0phNg


(Ronan) #31

[quote=“GregHouseMD;54357”][quote=“bistreVittle;54184”]
Who else could you see using it, then? If I may ask. The faster mercs like Proxy, Aura, etc are just fine using the cricket bat. The katana wouldn’t work on them.

Skyhammer? Turtle? Stoker? We also have to think realistically who it’d be proper on to use.[/quote]

You’re really, really over-thinking this. What does ‘realistically’ even mean in this context? Wait, no, I don’t actually care. Because unless there’s a balance issue ( which there might be with the faster mercs ), it’s just silly to claim it’s more ‘realistic’ for one merc or another to use it. This has no more to do with realism than going to war with cricket bats.

[quote=“bistreVittle;54184”]
As Lispy said, we were lead to believe that the katana was for Phantom alone. I mean, fer fucks sake, his photo has it, and every single loadout.[/quote]

I think you mean you ‘assumed’, not ‘were led to believe’. Phantom doesn’t even have the katana on all his loadouts - it’s on a minority of them.[/quote]

I don’t think you quite get what I meant. In every photo of of each loadout card for Phantom, the katana is displayed. When I saw that, and traded up for a Cobalt and I got a stiletto knife, I was just-- “Well, that’s misleading”. And, tried it 2 more times. I have 3 cobalt Phantom loadout cards with the stiletto knife. It’s ridiculous.


(azureChowder) #32

May with Meelee Merc.


(GregHouseMD) #33

[quote=“bistreVittle;54409”][quote=“GregHouseMD;54357”][quote=“bistreVittle;54184”]
Who else could you see using it, then? If I may ask. The faster mercs like Proxy, Aura, etc are just fine using the cricket bat. The katana wouldn’t work on them.

Skyhammer? Turtle? Stoker? We also have to think realistically who it’d be proper on to use.[/quote]

You’re really, really over-thinking this. What does ‘realistically’ even mean in this context? Wait, no, I don’t actually care. Because unless there’s a balance issue ( which there might be with the faster mercs ), it’s just silly to claim it’s more ‘realistic’ for one merc or another to use it. This has no more to do with realism than going to war with cricket bats.

[quote=“bistreVittle;54184”]
As Lispy said, we were lead to believe that the katana was for Phantom alone. I mean, fer fucks sake, his photo has it, and every single loadout.[/quote]

I think you mean you ‘assumed’, not ‘were led to believe’. Phantom doesn’t even have the katana on all his loadouts - it’s on a minority of them.[/quote]

I don’t think you quite get what I meant. In every photo of of each loadout card for Phantom, the katana is displayed. When I saw that, and traded up for a Cobalt and I got a stiletto knife, I was just-- “Well, that’s misleading”. And, tried it 2 more times. I have 3 cobalt Phantom loadout cards with the stiletto knife. It’s ridiculous.[/quote]

Yeah, and Proxy is holding up the Hollunds. Should every Proxy loadout have Hollunds, and Hollunds be exclusive to Proxy, because her picture has it?


(Ronan) #34

[quote=“GregHouseMD;54487”][quote=“bistreVittle;54409”][quote=“GregHouseMD;54357”][quote=“bistreVittle;54184”]
Who else could you see using it, then? If I may ask. The faster mercs like Proxy, Aura, etc are just fine using the cricket bat. The katana wouldn’t work on them.

Skyhammer? Turtle? Stoker? We also have to think realistically who it’d be proper on to use.[/quote]

You’re really, really over-thinking this. What does ‘realistically’ even mean in this context? Wait, no, I don’t actually care. Because unless there’s a balance issue ( which there might be with the faster mercs ), it’s just silly to claim it’s more ‘realistic’ for one merc or another to use it. This has no more to do with realism than going to war with cricket bats.

[quote=“bistreVittle;54184”]
As Lispy said, we were lead to believe that the katana was for Phantom alone. I mean, fer fucks sake, his photo has it, and every single loadout.[/quote]

I think you mean you ‘assumed’, not ‘were led to believe’. Phantom doesn’t even have the katana on all his loadouts - it’s on a minority of them.[/quote]

I don’t think you quite get what I meant. In every photo of of each loadout card for Phantom, the katana is displayed. When I saw that, and traded up for a Cobalt and I got a stiletto knife, I was just-- “Well, that’s misleading”. And, tried it 2 more times. I have 3 cobalt Phantom loadout cards with the stiletto knife. It’s ridiculous.[/quote]

Yeah, and Proxy is holding up the Hollunds. Should every Proxy loadout have Hollunds, and Hollunds be exclusive to Proxy, because her picture has it?[/quote]

Not necessarily, but, who else do you see the katana working on? Honestly.

The only other I can see right now would be Kira, since as someone said, Japanese.


(GregHouseMD) #35

What do you mean ‘working’? If we’re going by character concepts here, I guess Fragger shouldn’t be able to use the cricket bat, since he’s American?


(Ronan) #36

[quote=“Jojack;54298”]I saw a Nexxon stream with Miss Murder and someone else discuss the Katana. The way I understood it, is on any load out with the cricket bat, you could choose either the bat or the katana. Any merc could do this.

It’s possible I misunderstood them, but I’m pretty sure that’s what they were saying.

Having said that, they weren’t developers and it was on the first day Phantom was released. Things can change.

Personally, I would love a Katana on my Kira, but I’m not sure it would feel right. She is the only merc I can think of that it sort of fits though…being Japanese and all.

I’d prefer a stilleto on everyone else, personally.

Also, I’m not sure why a merc needs to be stealth based to use a katana. When I think Katana, I think Samurai, not Ninja.[/quote]

True enough. But, not necessarily even stealth-based, but, you understand my general concept behind it. Unless it fits their playstyle, or maybe even design, it’s sorta’ meh.

‘Working’ as in someone like Rhino using the katana would be impractical. Unless it worked very well with a characters design, stats, abilities, and playstyle, I’d like to see it stay on Phantom.


(GregHouseMD) #37

It’s very obvious you’d like that, but I don’t see a line of reasoning. Several mercs could make good use of it. Sawbonez comes to mind, Kira as mentioned before, Proxy.


(Radford_343) #38

God no, please. Don’t give that thing to more mercs.


(KattiValk) #39

Who’s the only Japanese character in the game? That’s right, it’s not Phantom. :mrgreen:

Who’s even arguing realism when everyone and their mother get cricket bats? Oh no, an American is using a cricket bat while dodging PGMs by running under a shed roof; there goes my immersion.

On an unrelated note, we need more nationalities. I demand something other than US, UK, China, Japan, Russia(?)*, and wherever Fletcher is from (I don’t remember).

*Vassili has the name and the face, but not the accent to back it up.


(Sorotia) #40

Maybe should make it like a ability…like Nader’s launcher or Rhino’s Gattling Gun. Maybe when uncloaked he has a chance to deflect bullets with it like Wade Wilson?

Sorry couldn’t resist the stupid suggestion :stuck_out_tongue: