Rhino's shotgun and other kit

(Arri_Shi) #1

Whenever I hear discussion about Rhino, it’s always about how unviable his minigun is. Did everyone forget he has other weapons too? I mean, I even got congratulated by another player after he saw me using something OTHER than my minigun (to great effect I may add). So… let’s talk about his other kit.

I tend to talk about my experience with a lead R93

I find his shotgun, or at least the Rhemburg, to be quite useful at pop shooting, dealing with sudden encounters with lighter classes, finishing weakened enemies, and assaulting lone positions around corners. The shotgun has a distinct advantage over his minigun in that it gives Rhino a much needed boost in mobility while still maintaining a heavy damage output. I find it’s more useful in 1v1 whine the minigun is more useful for groups (or sitting on an Aura station).

His heavy pistols tend to play like any other class, i.e. too much recoil and really only good in a clutch. I still tend to use them to harass at range, finish enemies I don’t want to get near, and the occasional sidearm shootout. Not much I can really say, I hardly use them.

His melee… well, anyone getting in a knife fight with a tank will be in for a nasty time. His health allows him to to soak up slashes and stabs, and mobility isn’t really the biggest issue when two characters are that close. Of course, it’s still mostly used as a finisher, clutch weapon, and something you run with. That being said, no one will ever expect you to charge at them with a paddle…

What are your experiences with Rhino’s other weapons?

(neverplayseriou) #2

If I play Rhino I’ll use the Ahnuld cause you atleast keep some mobility that way :stuck_out_tongue:

(Vaasref) #3

A61 FTW

It’s the perfect loadout, the Ahnuld-12 is a beast, giving you versatility with its midrange headshot capability.

I can’t stand the S&W .40, even if it outperform the Simeon .357. But they are both still good at annoying snipers.

And having a knife makes you run faster.
The cricket bat is useless with Rhino since it won’t make you faster than the pistol.

The issue with Rhino is that he takes 100% dps since its impossible to miss him, and if you opponent lands HS then you only last less than a second.
So if you want to kill you only have 2 to 3 shot (shotgun or pistol) before getting killed which is hardly enough to even kill if you land all your shots.

(Szakalot) #4

minigun - unviable? its the best bulled-based weapon, hands down, give me minigun on fletcher or my personal favorite fantasy - aura

you can absolutely shred people with 600hs DPS

(Mrarauzz) #5

The shotguns mean nothing when your minigun is strictly better. I enjoy using the pistols for the rare times I decide to kill someone long range, but rhino’s main strength is CQB.

(solace_) #6

him being a tank means nothing in a knife fight. even with his minigun or shotgun out Rhino is an easy target for me as aura running in with a knife. in a lot of situations i find it easier to attack with a knife because it makes it extra hard for him to hit me while I am running in circles around him.

(Szakalot) #7

@succinctDeer that will only work against terrible rhinos who play with fov60

(solace_) #8

na man. works with most rhinos. I have tried it at a lot of different times in a lot of different servers. Aura runs fast. cant beat it; especially if you jump off walls and over their head. it is almost impossible to track.

(Vaasref) #9

na man. works with most rhinos. I have tried it at a lot of different times in a lot of different servers. Aura runs fast. cant beat it; especially if you jump off walls and over their head. it is almost impossible to track.
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That just mean most Rhinos are terrible.

(solace_) #10

na man. works with most rhinos. I have tried it at a lot of different times in a lot of different servers. Aura runs fast. cant beat it; especially if you jump off walls and over their head. it is almost impossible to track.
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That just mean most Rhinos are terrible.[/quote]

well, rhino is a difficult merc to play in many situations. Why is it so unbelievable to say that aura is good at killing rhino with a knife? Or, if you put a shotgun shell into him at close range, it becomes even easier. if you get the flank on the rhino its really easy to take them down.

If you guys are honestly saying you can track an aura or sparks that is running around you, you are kidding yourself, it is almost impossible. especially if the person doing the running is jumping off walls and stuff.

(Vaasref) #11

Rhino is all about mind game and placement.

I’m not good at aiming, but when it come to predict the behavior of people I shred then I consider myself a good Rhino.

For me as a Rhino you should not be able to get flanked, your only strengh is your minigun. Because you have a minigun you are slow and big, and because you are slow and big you have 200HP, the HP pool is a consequence, not a strength.

Then since the minigun is your only strength, you need to use it to stay alive.
The minigun is not really accurate and obviously only shoot in front of you, so you need to place yourself at places where you can easily control the enemy path.

Being in a zone accessible only by 1 easy way and 1 hard way is dangerous because if the enemy want to flank you you can’t easily time them and you also can’t reliably predict their behavior.

But if you choose to block a zone with multiple ways with comparable difficulty then you can easily predict their behavior as you kill them again and again.

The best example is the MG flat at Terminal first objective, the balcony and the stairs are two viable option since the attacker can choose both way to get you. The easiest is the balcony but it’s also the esiest to defend since as rhino you have a perfect slit with the balcony door to aim you minigun and deal 100% dps exposing a tiny fraction of your body.
The stairs in the other hand are longer for the opponent to take but much safer, so they’ll probably switch to that way after getting killed 1 to 3 times depending of the frequency of their tries. Also thanks to the big corridor before the stairs, your can be aware of them rushing you, generally with their knife and then you only take 1 hit or 2 if they are good at strafing.

Also at that position you almost always encounter light mercs because the path conpared to the middle building is longer.
When a medium or heavy mercs go there it’s by the balcony so they are dead in less than half a second.

(Szakalot) #12

na man. works with most rhinos. I have tried it at a lot of different times in a lot of different servers. Aura runs fast. cant beat it; especially if you jump off walls and over their head. it is almost impossible to track.
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That just mean most Rhinos are terrible.[/quote]

well, rhino is a difficult merc to play in many situations. Why is it so unbelievable to say that aura is good at killing rhino with a knife? Or, if you put a shotgun shell into him at close range, it becomes even easier. if you get the flank on the rhino its really easy to take them down.

If you guys are honestly saying you can track an aura or sparks that is running around you, you are kidding yourself, it is almost impossible. especially if the person doing the running is jumping off walls and stuff.[/quote]

what fov are you playing at?

Aura knife hit at ~40hp vs. Rhino wtih 200hp at 300dps? seriously?

(solace_) #13

na man. works with most rhinos. I have tried it at a lot of different times in a lot of different servers. Aura runs fast. cant beat it; especially if you jump off walls and over their head. it is almost impossible to track.
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That just mean most Rhinos are terrible.[/quote]

well, rhino is a difficult merc to play in many situations. Why is it so unbelievable to say that aura is good at killing rhino with a knife? Or, if you put a shotgun shell into him at close range, it becomes even easier. if you get the flank on the rhino its really easy to take them down.

If you guys are honestly saying you can track an aura or sparks that is running around you, you are kidding yourself, it is almost impossible. especially if the person doing the running is jumping off walls and stuff.[/quote]

what fov are you playing at?

Aura knife hit at ~40hp vs. Rhino wtih 200hp at 300dps? seriously?[/quote]

I play at anywhere from 80-100+ depending. yeah, i am telling you, it can work. Im not saying it works everytime, but it does work. I was really suprised the first time I tried it. And then I tried it again every so often and it still works.

Granted, certain situations are better than others. Obviously head charging the rhino with a knife will not work. You have to flank, be the first to strike, and then when they turn around you run to the other side and hit them again and repeat. Jump off of a wall to make yourself unpredictable. If you have a shotgun it can make this tactic even better.

probably not a good thing to try though if there are a bunch of his team mates around, but one or two and it is definitely doable.