revivr gun accuracy since patch

(teppla) #1

Didn’t catch any changes in the log but since the patch the gun has been behaving really odd. Most of the time its accuracy is on the dot but there are occasions where a spread gets introduced even when completely still.

Ive got 1 slight video of it

(Hibbsan) #2

That actually looked pretty weird… i have played a few matches with Sparks and i havent noticed anything. might be a really rare bug.

(Jostabeere) #3

Yeah. Good. This thing is OP.

(N8o) #4

Seems like a bug with the animation sequence where your accuracy doesn’t change with the animation, so it’s still like you’re hipfiring. Just a thought.

(Potato_Ladder) #5

May one day it be more of a medical tool and less of a lethal weapon.

(SiegeFace) #6

Yes lets make another merc completely useless…

(Jostabeere) #7

What’s to disagree here? The gun is a spammable rifle with unlimited ammunition. You can outgun a Vassili with it. And he is a real sniper. There are a whole lot of people who think the Revivr is OP.
And why would Sparks become useless if she won’t be able to MLG-snipe around?

(Ctrix) #8

You really can’t outgun a Vassili. I tried, pretty hard.
You need to get a fully charged headshot. That means there’s sparks flying all around your reticule. He just needs to hit you in the body, because you have fuckall health.

If you spam it, you’ll also do little damage. Like 30-40hp. The Dreiss AR is better at that point, because it has a higher fire rate.

(Drac0rion) #9

Just reduce the Revivr headshot multiplier not to oneshot at least most mercs and maybe add her the awesome looking pushback effect like in the trailer and BOOM, you got an actual supportive medic who isn’t being compared to a sniper.
Vassili can’t instagib, Sparks can’t oneshot, everyone’s happy except the Sparks mains.

(Jostabeere) #10

The revivr just needs a damage falloff on range.

(Faraleth) #11

@Jostabeere Regardless of whether anyone’s opinion on the REVIVR is OP or not, random spread is never “good” at all, so I would certainly disagree with that I’m afraid :wink: There are far better ways to make adjustments to her than something terrible like that.

(Jostabeere) #12

It was not really serious. Sure it’s more of a bug.

(Izzy) #13

But wouldn’t it be a way to avoid the concurrence with Vassili, Aime and Redeye, and force people to go more into contact. And as a sparks can’t really go into contact, that forces her to heal more than fight.

@Faraleth Define what you mean by random spread, and why it is not “good at all”. So you mean that the minigun shoud have a pinpoint accuracy? random spread can be good if it is implemented for a good reason. The revivr is not a sniper rifle, so I don’t see why would this be a bug necessarily :confused:

(Faraleth) #14

@Izzy well the minigun is a VERY different kind of weapon :expressionless: I didn’t mean that in the same context as the REVIVR. Simply put, random spread on a weapon like the REVIVR would ruin the weapon entirely, due to the required charge time and actual damage output of the weapon (which is still one of the lowest DPS weapons in the game). Random spread like that would just punish skill with poor RNG mechanics - which was another reason why people disliked the Crotzni changes a few months ago.

Spread works on automatics or semi-auto because you are dealing with recoil too, allowing you to gain much more control over the weapon, but in the case of the REVIVR there is almost no recoil beside a tiny amount of vertical after you take a shot. This means the player needs to be confident the shot is going to land where they are actually aiming - because who wants to miss a shot with a REVIVR simply because the game decided it would fire 2 degrees to the left? :confused:

(fandangoRose) #15

@Faraleth Define what you mean by random spread, and why it is not “good at all”. So you mean that the minigun shoud have a pinpoint accuracy? random spread can be good if it is implemented for a good reason. The revivr is not a sniper rifle, so I don’t see why would this be a bug necessarily :/[/quote]

Putting random spread on the Revivr is like putting random spread on a scoped in sniper… Horrible.

(teppla) #16

Heres another clip showing the spread even more extreme

I can’t find any formula or pattern to it. I’d go through games without experiencing it at all and others its apparent every few shots.