Removed players level from lobby?

(Amerika) #21

[quote=“Jostabeere;188983”]I still am not a fan of hiding levels. It’s just a placebo which tries to help the balance issue.
If they manage to make a good balance system, level won’t be that important anyways.[/quote]

Which is exactly why they are developing the new queuing system. Instead of trying to balance only the players that are on the same server via their MMR the queue system will balance players by their MMR against the entire pool of queuing players. So if you’re a mediocre player you’ll get mostly queued against other mediocre player. If you’re really good you will mostly get queued with other really good players etc. etc. If you queue with friends it will try to queue you against people with the same total MMR as a team.

They are removing levels entirely because they provide nothing more than poison, excuses and sometimes actual rage for everyone involved. And then you get guys who truly believe that level = skill even though that makes virtually no sense whatsoever and isn’t applicable to anything in human history when it comes to mechanical skill. Normally I wouldn’t link another games video but this is 100% relevant to DB in that it’s the exact same problem.

I wish DB showed a players private MMR and easily see player stats like that other game I linked.

(XavienX) #22

Tbh I think showing the level just gives a general idea for teammates to know whether that person is experienced or not. Sure it may not always apply but it’s helpful to know whether to avoid that player or depend on them.

(SaulWolfden) #23

They just need to go but one step further and hide the levels when you’re in the match itself (like when you press tab) and not only in the lobby.

(blufflord) #24

now instead of people looking at the lobby and deciding that its unfair without actually playing, and leave, they will now tab as soon as they spawn and leave within the first 5 seconds. Yaaayyyy!!!

(watsyurdeal) #25

Good, cause it’s getting old hearing people complain about me and my level.

Heaven forbid I play a game for a whole year.

(Herr_Hanz) #26

the one thing i wonder is, how can i know for sure that a 50 kill game/side is earned by killing min 10 players instead of killing level 5-10. if right now i post a screenshot of me going 48/16 and the enemy players are no higher than level 10 people will just call me a noob for playing with below level 10 as a level 39

(blufflord) #27

simple:
dont care what people say. You dont need their verification. If ur happy with ur performance, thats fine.

(Mrarauzz) #28

They removed it? That’s nice last time I recall having my level an issue was a week ago from naonna being dissapointed that a level 80 couldn’t carry the team to victory. I would have loved to see levels removed a long time ago it gets old for people to bitch at you because you didn’t carry or that you are just some pubstomper.

(Daergar) #29

Just slightly amused that it’s taken over a year for someone to realize “since levels mean absolutely nothing and only have a negative impact, we should not be showing them”.

The amount of crap that gets thrown your way due to a two or three digit number is staggering, yet votes on people afk in spawn or the obvious aimbotter rarely passes.

It’s a bit weird though, never saw anything like this in older cod or bf titles. Rose-tinted glasses or is it something new or specific to DB that I’m missing? Because here levels do mean absolutely nothing, while other games have actual unlocks and advantages based on your level or playtime or whatever.

(LifeupOmega) #30

Nah you’re right Daergar, I never see this obsession with levels in any other game. Maybe 'cause this is a free to play title so it brings in all the little turds who get so strung up on that type of thin.

(arcaneCanvas) #31

can you downgrade your own level? can you pay to do that?
i dont wanna get harrassed for being a no life anymore…

(ChaoticElf) #32

This. Even for me being what I consider not very high for playing the full year its been out. Never really understood where it comes from, especially when I get it more on min lvl 10 servers than no restricted ones.

(neverplayseriou) #33

[quote=“Daergar;189493”]Just slightly amused that it’s taken over a year for someone to realize “since levels mean absolutely nothing and only have a negative impact, we should not be showing them”.

The amount of crap that gets thrown your way due to a two or three digit number is staggering, yet votes on people afk in spawn or the obvious aimbotter rarely passes.

It’s a bit weird though, never saw anything like this in older cod or bf titles. Rose-tinted glasses or is it something new or specific to DB that I’m missing? Because here levels do mean absolutely nothing, while other games have actual unlocks and advantages based on your level or playtime or whatever.[/quote]

Because in other games people don’t care as much about a little bit of rude language as some db players do.

(Fractures) #34

You should be proud of your level & not bothered by their ‘harassment’

(K1X455) #35

I appreciate this change.

Speaking of match making and team balance, a mate suggested some sort of ELO system to determine player balancing in public matches.

(watsyurdeal) #36

[quote=“Fractures;189547”]You should be proud of your level & not bothered by their ‘harassment’
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It was like this

Lvl 40

Them: “omfg lvl 40 gtfo bro”

Me: :smile:

Lvl 50

Them: “dude level 50, hacks”

Me: : :expressionless:

Lvl 60

Them: “carried by level 60 fag”

Me: https://66.media.tumblr.com/avatar_1cf9fe79a2d6_128.png

(EverythingElse) #37

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;189633”][quote=“Fractures;189547”]You should be proud of your level & not bothered by their ‘harassment’
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It was like this

Lvl 40

Them: “omfg lvl 40 gtfo bro”

Me: :smile:

Lvl 50

Them: “dude level 50, hacks”

Me: : :expressionless:

Lvl 60

Them: “carried by level 60 @$!#”

Me: https://66.media.tumblr.com/avatar_1cf9fe79a2d6_128.png

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Me lvl 27: Gets wrecked by lvl 5 sniper

(arcaneCanvas) #38

[quote=“Fractures;189547”]You should be proud of your level & not bothered by their ‘harassment’
[/quote]

i never bothered with the harrassment…

i heard it every day and night and now i can still hear it muffled behind my head
https://youtu.be/BRDEpFNg_rA?t=109

(Amerika) #39

[quote=“Fractures;189547”]You should be proud of your level & not bothered by their ‘harassment’
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What a lot of people don’t seem to understand and factor in is that the person being targeted a lot of the time doesn’t actually care. However, the person doing it does care and so do a lot of other player’s on the server who don’t say anything. And then you throw in the fact that virtually the entire non-forum reading player base (and even some who do read the forums) think that the game, for some reason, balances based on level instead of the hidden MMR. So you end up with a lot of toxicity, animosity, resentment, anger and all kinds of other emotions because that’s how people react (whether or not it’s mature or not).

There is more to it than that but I think that gives you an idea of what the actual issue is. It’s not people with a high level being whiners. It’s everyone else involved that is a massive negative.

(bontsa) #40

[quote=“Amerika;189654”][quote=“Fractures;189547”]Yaddayadda
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don’t mind me just lemme nail it right here[/quote]