Remove Sawbonez "resistance" to his own medicine


([GER] eclipsE) #1

Like in the title

Why does Sawbonez gets HP back so low? No other healing Class has this disability.
If i drop a Medpack and get it myself as sawbonez i heal like i would wait for a few seconds and get auto-heal. An Aura can stand for Days in her healing Station, getting healed like crazy, phoenix too and sparks gets same hp back as others from her medpacks. Why is sawbonez so disadvanteged?


(kittz0r) #2

Allahu Akbar… Sawbonezu is tjust a healing Medic for Comp… but wait… SF just got Exekion… so they don’t care anyways…


(ASTOUNDINGSHELL) #3

the medpacks sawbonex drops dont give a lot of HP when pciekd of the ground, they give a LOT of HP in a direct hit thats hwy sawbonex doenst get a lot of HP from them, throw them at the groun and if you are lucky it will glitch and count it as a direct hit


(avidCow) #4

Sawbonez is not at a disadvantage because his healing potential is so strong. If he could heal himself the way he heals others there would be little point in playing other medics.

Also, Phoenix’s self-heal is bad too - arguably worse than Sawbonez.


(RyePanda) #5

[quote="[GER] eclipsE;20472"]Like in the title

Why does Sawbonez gets HP back so low? No other healing Class has this disability.
If i drop a Medpack and get it myself as sawbonez i heal like i would wait for a few seconds and get auto-heal. An Aura can stand for Days in her healing Station, getting healed like crazy, phoenix too and sparks gets same hp back as others from her medpacks. Why is sawbonez so disadvanteged? [/quote]

No. This would make him way too good at self-healing and further encourage selfish play. No medic can heal themselves to full health that quickly.


(bizarreRectangle) #6

Balance. And shit like that.


(darlingClaymore) #7

[quote=“avidCow;112313”]Sawbonez is not at a disadvantage because his healing potential is so strong. If he could heal himself the way he heals others there would be little point in playing other medics.

Also, Phoenix’s self-heal is bad too - arguably worse than Sawbonez.[/quote]
Phoenix’s heal is better than sawbones, AOE heal makes him better at 1v1, but hey that’s just me. the med pack takes time to heal, with perks such as potent and cooldown. Phoeinx becomes a jack of all trades, which in most games are the ones that are competitive atleast ones ive played


(avidCow) #8

“AOE heal makes him better at 1v1”

I don’t understand what AOE has to do with 1v1. Good luck dishing out as much health as Sawbonez with an AOE heal on a stingy cooldown.


(bontsa) #9

[quote=“avidCow;112378”]“AOE heal makes him better at 1v1”

I don’t understand what AOE has to do with 1v1. Good luck dishing out as much health as Sawbonez with an AOE heal on a stingy cooldown.[/quote]

I think he means mostly that since Phoenix’s heal does not suffer from this self-reduction, his heal is arguably better in 1v1 due that. It has to be charged to be effective though so its not all black and white either. If Sawbonez were to heal himself during battle, he’d have to escape it for certain period of time since his heal gets cancelled when hit. However if not hit, it’ll continue until 100% unlike Phoenix’s.

Which is just fine trade in my honest opinion, since Sawbonez excels at healing multiple allies from zero-to-hero when they’re not under direct fire, while Phoenix gives less heals amount-wise but excels in bringing that extra “stim-pack” into heat of gunfight, making allies last just that tad bit longer under direct fire.

So in short, zen’n’balance mates!


(retief) #10

[quote=“RyePanda;112327”][quote="[GER] eclipsE;20472"]Like in the title

Why does Sawbonez gets HP back so low? No other healing Class has this disability.
If i drop a Medpack and get it myself as sawbonez i heal like i would wait for a few seconds and get auto-heal. An Aura can stand for Days in her healing Station, getting healed like crazy, phoenix too and sparks gets same hp back as others from her medpacks. Why is sawbonez so disadvanteged? [/quote]

No. This would make him way too good at self-healing and further encourage selfish play. No medic can heal themselves to full health that quickly.[/quote]

I agree overall. Sawbones is plenty strong already, he doesn’t need buffs. That said, when it comes to quickly self healing to full, sparks would like a word with you – pop two packs and you are good to go. Of course, that’s mostly because you start out with so little health …


(darlingClaymore) #11

[quote=“avidCow;112378”]“AOE heal makes him better at 1v1”

I don’t understand what AOE has to do with 1v1. Good luck dishing out as much health as Sawbonez with an AOE heal on a stingy cooldown.[/quote] INSTANT heal. You have proved you cant understand that… sigh


(Dawnlazy) #12

If anything he needs some nerfs to give other medics more room to exist in competitive.


(Ritobasu) #13

Why on earth would you want to buff Sawbonez when his fighting AND healing capability is top notch?

If he could heal himself as fast as he can top off a near-death Fragger, Sawbonez would be hilariously monstrous


(avidCow) #14

[quote=“darlingClaymore;112536”][quote=“avidCow;112378”]“AOE heal makes him better at 1v1”

I don’t understand what AOE has to do with 1v1. Good luck dishing out as much health as Sawbonez with an AOE heal on a stingy cooldown.[/quote] INSTANT heal. You have proved you cant understand that… sigh

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Of course I know his heal is INSTANT SIGH but you specifically mentioned AOE, so maybe work on your writing skills before acting like a snarky girl.


(Amerika) #15

If the packs healed himself like they do when others pick them up then Sawbonez would be an unstoppable killing machine instead of just being a very good and balanced merc.


([GER] eclipsE) #16

Yeah but still, when i play as Aura i can down a Rhino, who steps into my territority. Not quite the same as Sawbonez. As Phoenix, i need 5 seconds, to heal myself, enough to flank if needed, and if not i release and get the health i need to survive ppl who are chasing me. As Sawbonez, you can only drop a healthpack and hope nobody comes around a corner, sure same for Sparks, but sparks, should stay behind, cuz of Revivr


(darlingClaymore) #17

[quote=“avidCow;112716”][quote=“darlingClaymore;112536”][quote=“avidCow;112378”]“AOE heal makes him better at 1v1”

I don’t understand what AOE has to do with 1v1. Good luck dishing out as much health as Sawbonez with an AOE heal on a stingy cooldown.[/quote] INSTANT heal. You have proved you cant understand that… sigh

[/quote]

Of course I know his heal is INSTANT SIGH but you specifically mentioned AOE, so maybe work on your writing skills before acting like a snarky girl. [/quote]

AOE, AKA it heals everyone around him… Gee are you trying to be smart? If so don’t call me a girl.


(Szakalot) #18

Yeah but still, when i play as Aura i can down a Rhino, who steps into my territority. Not quite the same as Sawbonez. As Phoenix, i need 5 seconds, to heal myself, enough to flank if needed, and if not i release and get the health i need to survive ppl who are chasing me. As Sawbonez, you can only drop a healthpack and hope nobody comes around a corner, sure same for Sparks, but sparks, should stay behind, cuz of Revivr[/quote]

  • Phoenix needs 2 sec for a full hp heal, not 5
  • Aura is stuck on her healing station
  • Sparks definitely doesn’t have to hide, or stay behind
  • Sawbonez has the best heal/cooldown: he is the best if you want to heal multiple people in multiple locations. If sawbonez didn’t have nerfed heal his medpacks would be ridiculous. Sawbonez medpacks also slow-heal other medics