Remove 8v8 servers, add 5v5


(mOist) #21

@Humbug i guarntee there would be more people who enjoy 8v8 over 5v5 , 8v8 is aimed at Pub / casual fun where 5v5 is aimed more at the competitive scene , i could guarnte the pub / casual scene will be much bigger.

5v5 requires tactics and a nice balance of classes , something which is hard to accomplish in a pub.


(Diosito) #22

Too soon to remove 8vs8 (imo), especially now, when game is still in beta. For now, there is no way to measure the impact of 8vs8 in the game experience, especially when there are more mercs, maps and game mods to release (e.g. execution mode) and to improve… and 8vs8 helps devs to improve the game in general (balance, maps, weapons, loadouts,mercs…). There still a lot of work to do.

I don’t want to be rude, but if you don’t enjoy 8vs8, then focus your efforts on 6vs6 or 5vs5, seems that those numbers suites better to you.

Believe it or not, there are (and will be) players who enjoy 8vs8. I remember those 32vs32 ET servers, for me they were a mess, too spammy and unplayable (some of them with ridiculous mods), but lots of players where happy with that mess :slight_smile: .

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(blissfulFire) #23

I totally agree. I personally feel this game is strong with 6v6 max… otherwise it is just too crowded and tactical teamplay is lacking segnificantly in matches with higher player amounts.


(GregHouseMD) #24

I prefer 8v8 when I play. I don’t mind 7v7, but 6v6 gets a little too small. I think large games reduces the potential damage done by a single bad player ( if someone goes AFK in 6v6, you’re missing 33% of your team, as opposed to 25% in 8v8 ). It may also mean it’s less likely for one very good player to dominate the entire game.

I don’t really notice much spam, or Fragger dominating. A lot of people don’t even agree that Fragger is good, despite that apparently being the opinion on the forums ( and my own opinion ), and a lot of people just don’t have him yet. I do play quite a bit, and I rarely see more than one, maybe two Fraggers in a match. Quite often there’s not a single one present in anyone’s squad. On EU servers, anyway.


(Ardez1) #25

[quote=“snowMonkey;17089”]I prefer 8v8 when I play. I don’t mind 7v7, but 6v6 gets a little too small. I think large games reduces the potential damage done by a single bad player ( if someone goes AFK in 6v6, you’re missing 33% of your team, as opposed to 25% in 8v8 ). It may also mean it’s less likely for one very good player to dominate the entire game.

I don’t really notice much spam, or Fragger dominating. A lot of people don’t even agree that Fragger is good, despite that apparently being the opinion on the forums ( and my own opinion ), and a lot of people just don’t have him yet. I do play quite a bit, and I rarely see more than one, maybe two Fraggers in a match. Quite often there’s not a single one present in anyone’s squad. On EU servers, anyway.[/quote]

If somebody goes afk in 6v6 you are missing 16.6% of your team. 33% would be 2 players going afk. If a player goes afk in 8v8 you will be missing 12.5%. One player can easily dominate 8v8. Just look for any screenshot of a player with 40+ kills and check the server size.

Part of this is that most competitive players avoid 8v8 because of the ‘mayhem’. They would prefer to practice fragging in the smaller team environments that are closer to comp configs. The big reason for 5v5s is that it is the same size as ranked. As it is currently it is impossible to play a rank sized match outside of ranked. That is an issue. 5v5s are a must have for pubs.


(resonantCasserole) #26

I find 5v5 Boring, but if people want to play it sure. But why remove 8v8? I mean 8v8 servers are the most fun servers. Playing an 5v5 feels empty and boring, atleast for some maps.
Imo keep 8v8 and add 5v5 If thats what people want.


(xRoger) #27

Don’t fix what isn’t broken mate.

8v8 is great for Pub stomping and allows people to clan stack (if that’s what floats their boat).

5v5 Servers could also be added, but Nexon probably have some stupid monetization scheme in the works which will completely alienate the Comp Scene.


(phila_delphia) #28

8vs8 is good if you are playing random matches imo. Anyhow I´d like to see some adittional 5on5 servers.

Best ergards

phila


(GregHouseMD) #29

[quote=“Ardez;17132”]
If somebody goes afk in 6v6 you are missing 16.6% of your team. 33% would be 2 players going afk. If a player goes afk in 8v8 you will be missing 12.5%. One player can easily dominate 8v8. Just look for any screenshot of a player with 40+ kills and check the server size.[/quote]

You are, of course, entirely right ( with respect to the percentages ). I’m rather embarrassed now.

I don’t disagree with the one player dominating the other team, either. More targets doesn’t necessarily mean a bigger threat. Maybe you’ll have a bigger chance of each team having at least one good player, but I don’t know.


(Luka38) #30

If you don’t like 8v8 than just don’t play it, no need to remove it.


(hotpinkReel) #31

[quote=“snowMonkey;17089”]I prefer 8v8 when I play. I don’t mind 7v7, but 6v6 gets a little too small. I think large games reduces the potential damage done by a single bad player ( if someone goes AFK in 6v6, you’re missing 33% of your team, as opposed to 25% in 8v8 ). It may also mean it’s less likely for one very good player to dominate the entire game.

I don’t really notice much spam, or Fragger dominating. A lot of people don’t even agree that Fragger is good, despite that apparently being the opinion on the forums ( and my own opinion ), and a lot of people just don’t have him yet. I do play quite a bit, and I rarely see more than one, maybe two Fraggers in a match. Quite often there’s not a single one present in anyone’s squad. On EU servers, anyway.[/quote]

Man, the more posts of yours I read, the more I agree with you. The only sensible conclusion is that we must have a psychic connection.

I’m somewhere between comp and casual. I like skill based game play, and whatever I play, I do play hard. But I hate cheese, and I’d rather lose a good fight than win a boring victory.

So I like 8v8 purely because it’s just total chaos. That’s when I’m in my element, having the most fun. I think its way more interesting because there’s never a dull moment, never time to rest, always something to do. You have to be on your toes and really aware of your surroundings. I’m actually hoping that they add even higher pop servers eventually. Then things can get really crazy. :stuck_out_tongue:


(vdll) #32

We have like 2 and a half people playing this game atm, it’s not like you can pick among 20 servers. Hell, quite often after filtering non-empty and non-full servers, there is nothing! (EU)


(amberHarp) #33

I have played Planetside for quite a while so im used to chaos :smiley: . 8v8 is very fun and i wish that they dont remove it.


(Neni) #34

It’s simple. If you don’t like 8v8 then don’t play 8v8. A good amount enjoy it and even if you have an AFK or a couple of people sitting back away from the team it’s not as bad as it would be in a smaller game.

Some people don’t care for the competitive side and play for the chaotic fun of a fast paced run and gun shooter. Removing a server type because it doesn’t suit you it silly when there are other servers out there . And as for the “There aren’t any servers!” 8v8 has the same issue, removing the 8v8 will only make matters worse since all us 8v8 fans will migrate to the other servers…then it will be “Remove 7v7! There are too many players!” .

Just adding more servers as a whole will fix everyone’s gripes without taking away from player’s enjoyment.


(joshingPlank) #35

I don’t mind 8v8 until teams start stacking naders/fraggers. Other than that it’s really fun turning a corner and most of the time running into an enemy. Looking for someone to kill is tedious.