I hear you. However I would not be a freeloader today, if I knew that stuff in game is guaranteed after I toss some money.
I would be so happy to pay for this game , just like for other games, but what do I get in return? Nothing really…not even the vanity I want.
Is the game itself in return not enough?
People buy normal games and pay for the game itself. Why should it be more than that for f2p games?
Edit: Awkward. Second half was for another thread. too much Tabs open.
[quote=“Jostabeere;116978”]0.3% ain’t horrible if you’re a freeloader. People like some special individuals should learn about companies and income. As hard as it sounds: They don’t need you, if you don’t pay. A game with 100 people who pay will get better support and updates than a game with 10 million freeloaders.
It is extremely interesting how people need an event where they don’t get cosmetic skins to evolve into brainless things and rage around calling SD and Nexon greedy bastards and bad game designer. Because of some damn skins! SD was nice to give us the opportunity to receive a bonus people would normally pay a big amount of money for, and yet freeloads are the ones who are screaming the loudest about SD being unfair and greedy and whatsoever.
It might sound rude, but if I would be SD; I would limit all upcoming events to people who actually paid anything for the game.[/quote]
Nice how you picked only the free part of this event - CW loadouts that you can get in normal cases. That is the part that has is the least problematic. It would even be fine if not for the other issues:
RNG when paying is utter garbage. “some damn skins” are the whole point of this event. It’s fine if you don’t care about them but that’s only your POV.
Because when buy a normal game you get ALL the content? Can I spend 60eur and get every current merc&loadout&skin? No.
You can do all these at the same time. It’s not an either/or situation.
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Nice how you picked only the free part of this event - CW loadouts that you can get in normal cases. That is the part that has is the least problematic. It would even be fine if not for the other issues:
RNG when paying is utter garbage. “some damn skins” are the whole point of this event. It’s fine if you don’t care about them but that’s only your POV.[/quote]
It’s the only part people rage so much about.
-You get silvers+ from Elite cases
-If you would be able to, freeloaders would go apeshit tbh
-it was said the cases have a low rate to drop and it’s obvious not everyone will be able to get them
But nice you picked only the skins part of this event and not the double Credits, 30% off of anything, even with Credits and even bronze loadouts after telling me about picking only a single part and not the whole. Ironical, isn’t it?
[quote=“Jostabeere;116991”][quote=“FalC_16;116986”]
I would be so happy to pay for this game , just like for other games, but what do I get in return? Nothing really…not even the vanity I want.
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Is the game itself in return not enough?
People buy normal games and pay for the game itself. Why should it be more than that for f2p games?
Edit: Awkward. Second half was for another thread. too much Tabs open.[/quote]
The game is great no question there.
But paying for micros transactions that do not guarantee stuff and/or the RNG is too high does not seem to be the right thing to do…if you played Path of Exile, you would see many players wearing shiny armor. The stats itself are given by the type of armor, but the glint is what you can buy. And you know exactly what are you paying for.
Anyways I don’t want to argue 
These are just my thoughts
Nope. If that is your impression you need to read the topics again.
How does that help me get CW cards?
Explain because I completely don’t understand.
If you think that playing for 15 hours and receiving 0 cases is OK, then we have to agree to disagree.
I’ve played 40 and keep playng and only got two. Means only one in 20 hours. I’ll barely used one and never gonna use the second. Am I complaining? No.
I grinded a whole month since I was able to and spent 700.000+ Credits on normal CW cases. Plus dropped cases. Only got one CW and two Silvers. I am not complaining.
I’ve spend money on 20 Elite cases back in the days and got 20 Silvers. I am not complaining.
I have 340 hours in DB and only posses 2 good golds, two good Silvers and one good CW I use actively. I don’t complain about it or greedy devs or whatsoever.
I don’t think the cards are that big or important part people should go apeshit about them.
I bought 10 elite cases earlier today, 4 of them were special edition and the rest were silver. Even at 10% the odds clearly were in my favour.
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If you think that playing for 15 hours and receiving 0 cases is OK, then we have to agree to disagree.
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I’ve played 40 and keep playng and only got two. Means only one in 20 hours. I’ll barely used one and never gonna use the second. Am I complaining? No.
I grinded a whole month since I was able to and spent 700.000+ Credits on normal CW cases. Plus dropped cases. Only got one CW and two Silvers. I am not complaining.
I’ve spend money on 20 Elite cases back in the days and got 20 Silvers. I am not complaining.
I have 340 hours in DB and only posses 2 good golds, two good Silvers and one good CW I use actively. I don’t complain about it or greedy devs or whatsoever.
I don’t think the cards are that big or important part people should go apeshit about them.
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“I’m not complaining” is not an argument. Same with “I don’t care” and “I don’t understand why other people care”.
Still waiting on that explanation why guaranteed CW cases in store would cause a game-wide riot.
REMOVED - I understand your point, but let’s steer clear of political events. D:
It would cause a riot because people couldn’t believe Nexon was actually somewhat consumer friendly
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Still waiting on that explanation why guaranteed CW cases in store would cause a game-wide riot.[/quote]
Would you like cosmetic stuff that is only accesible via real-currency-payments if you don’t want to spend money? Especially limited stuff?
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Still waiting on that explanation why guaranteed CW cases in store would cause a game-wide riot.[/quote]
Would you like cosmetic stuff that is only accesible via real-currency-payments if you don’t want to spend money?[/quote]
Wat? Still don’t know what you are talking about.
A quick recap:
Me: “- no ability to straight up buy CW cases”
You: " -If you would be able to, freeloaders would go apeshit tbh"
Me: “??? explain”
Are you trolling? The ability to buy cases which contain 100% a CW card would def not be for credits, only real money. That would make them accesible only if you pay money.
And no, they would never be for Credits.
[quote=“Jostabeere;117040”]Are you trolling? The ability to buy cases which contain 100% a CW card would def not be for credits, only real money. That would make them accesible only if you pay money.
And no, they would never be for Credits.[/quote]
Just like Elite Cases now. What’s the difference? Where is the cause for rioting? Still waiting.
I never said anything about buying them with credits. I don’t understand where did you infer that from.
[quote=“MarsRover;117043”][quote=“Jostabeere;117040”]Are you trolling? The ability to buy cases which contain 100% a CW card would def not be for credits, only real money. That would make them accesible only if you pay money.
And no, they would never be for Credits.[/quote]
Just like Elite Cases now. What’s the difference? Where is the cause for rioting? Still waiting.
I never said anything about buying them with credits. I don’t understand where did you infer that from.[/quote]
Are you not reading it on purpose?
Again, what’s that supposed to mean?
My idea is simple - make CW cases available to buy just like elite cases.
You extended an argument that this would somehow anger non-paying players, but you failed to make your point across in god knows how many posts already. The only thing you did is accuse me of deliberate misreading your posts Do you have any points to support your argument?
You want actual event cases being up for sale AFTER the event? This would make them less special.
Ever seen an online game, where Halloween or Christmas related content (free or not) was extended after the events? I didn’t.
Making them being accesable throughout the years would nullify their rarity and making them limited and payment only would upset people who can’t/want spend money on them WHILE the event. Making them obtainable through RNG is the most fair option.
There you got your arguments and you can stop spam this “I don’t read your posts, where’s your argument”
I am coming from MMO and MOBA games and just started played DB for a few months but I am still wondering how this whole RNG thing made sense to them.
From my MMO experience, when there is an event like CW, you just have to complete some quests or kill a boss to get a special item and/or an achievement. There is not any randomness in this. It’s simply a reward for your participation during that event. They could have set a “special objective” which will grant you a CW when you complete it. Let’s say for the most dedicated players this objective could be done more than one time so they could get more than one CW.
Casual players: one completion
Dedicated players: more than one.
Everyone’s happy.
From my MOBA experience, just like @MarsRover, I can’t understand why the CW loadouts are not in the store. It is solely cosmetic; pay for it or not, you are not going to have any advantage over non-paying players. I.E: League of legends regularly offers “limited edition” skins, it’s up to you to get them or not. No one is going to get angry after you, it’s just a skin.
@Jostabeere
Again you are making things up and arguing from there. It’s a limited event, so of course CW cases should disappear when the event ends.
Still no explanation why CW cases in store would cause non-paying players to riot. The only thing left for you is to admit you are wrong.