Ranked - punish for friendly-fire


(OwynTyler) #1

Someone had to say this but…

Really, what were you thinking impelenting that?

theory? - “Oh yes, after being punished for -300 exp I’ll repent and behave from now on”

in reality: - “That **cker walked right into my airstrike and punsihed me, I’m supper-pissed now, I’m gonna teamkill him even more, who cares about the game now anyway”


(Press E) #2

Thankfully I haven’t seen anyone that bad. I had one match where everyone literally hated each other and kept punishing each other and in some cases even walking into their fire on purpose though. We won, but with insanely low scores, lol


(SnakekillerX) #3

I’ve yet to see a single punish. Usually it goes… someone TK’s someone else and then there is a “my bad/sorry about that” typed (the person at fault normally knows who they are) and the game goes on.


#4

Enough punishes gets you kicked from the match. (Along with a leaver penalty)


(Press E) #5

Really? I don’t think that helps much, lol. Teamkiller on one side, down a player and almost guaranteed a loss on the other, because 5v5 is stupid like that.

How many punishes does it take though? I must have gotten pretty close to it just from random teammates who hate me, lol


(ImSploosh) #6

I’ve had a few people punish me constantly even after I apologize or if I killed them to stop the enemy team from planting (even in ranked people tend to get in my way and more often than not, their aim fails to kill the enemy team).

With Kira’s laser, I get a lot of team kills. It’s not my fault a lot of the time as teammates will continue fighting right next to my laser or run right into it when it’s stationary rather than let it do its work.

Shit just happens. Thankfully I’ve only come across one person who was constantly killing me. He was some Russian player (I believe) playing in NA. He got mad after I lasered him in the beginning of the match because he got in my way when someone was planting and he wouldn’t stop it. Dude eventually stopped though and we won the match.


(ThunderZsolt) #7

I get used to teammates walking into my airstrikes, those are really hard to notice, right?

What still pisses me off every single time:
I plant C4 on the primary objective. The timer shows clearly when it will explode. Idiotic teammate decide to stand next to the C4 regardless. I get -80 to -200 xp depending on which merc he played. He gets mad, and punishes me for another -300xp.

For what? Doing the objective? Really?


(OwynTyler) #8

I believe it only calls for automatic kick vote like for afk, happened twice in yesterdays match, noone agreed to kick ( cuz they wanted blood :> )

There is no way you could call this punishing system a healthy game mechanic


(Szakalot) #9

trolls will spoil games, aint nothing you can do


(OwynTyler) #10

except removing useless punishing which doesn’t do anything good but tilt people, or just make it mandatory without an option to forgive


(Mc1412013) #11

[quote=“ThunderZsolt;c-225380”]I get used to teammates walking into my airstrikes, those are really hard to notice, right?

What still pisses me off every single time:
I plant C4 on the primary objective. The timer shows clearly when it will explode. Idiotic teammate decide to stand next to the C4 regardless. I get -80 to -200 xp depending on which merc he played. He gets mad, and punishes me for another -300xp.

For what? Doing the objective? Really?[/quote]

That shouldnt count in my opinion. Never loked friendly fire anyways. Some times u got to do what u got to do. Ive taken out team mates with head shots using vassili that were in the way. It was either not hit the team mate or stop the enemy defusing. Id rather -300 xp vs loosing the game due to a last second defuse


(DrRageQuit) #12

Clipped a teammate with 1% health, downed them - Immediately revived them and apologized - TKed in return and punished. Its a ‘feature’ that is open to abuse and angry players to feel like they’re punishing a player for… well i’m sure theres a reason somewhere.


(OwynTyler) #13

I mean… there are no other use-cases for that ‘feature’, it brings nothing of value :confused:


(Nail) #14

some people need a reminder not to throw grenades, artillery strikes etc without checking for team mates


(bontsa) #15

Feature is not to blame, its the mouthbreathers using it wrong and not thinking their actions before seeing red shroud of anger blind their judgement.

Like Nail said its good to give a reminder for spammers that this isnt a pub match, they need to think their ability usage. I know when I’m myself to blame if I keep licking repaired enemy EV despite I should know to gtfo it since our fire supports probably are lining up some strikes to it already. Then I just forgive them as an acknowledgement of my own stupidity or dont take action at all.

Besides its more reliable way of getting deliberate teamkillers kicked off. After some amount of punishes an automatic vote pops in, and even if that doesnt go through but they carry on with teamkilling, some more punishments result in autokick iirc.

Nothing more satisfying than making idiots like that get a major penalty and turning our game 4v5 instead of 4v6.


(DrRageQuit) #16

I mean… there are no other use-cases for that ‘feature’, it brings nothing of value :confused:
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Except people who are deliberately team killing? Seems the majority of players dont know where their page up key is so vote kicks fail 90% of the time, when that happens all you can do is try to make sure they finish up with as few points as possible right?

[quote=“Nail;c-225410”]some people need a reminder not to throw grenades, artillery strikes etc without checking for team mates
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And some people need to remember no good will come of chasing the blue laser markers on the ground.


(Eox) #17

That’s just even more reasons to never play ranked in solo/duo queue.


(OwynTyler) #18

Except those points mean absolutely nothing.


(LifeupOmega) #19

If he was at 1% health I’d have intentionally downed him and revived him with more to avoid using cooldowns.


(Xenithos) #20

Meh, my GF and I have a system. If it happens once, instant forgive. But after multiple times, especially if there is NO sorry, or it looks intentional, we punish that idiot. One free forgiving to every player, guaranteed.

And yeah, accidentally dying due to awareness issues in DB is freaking hilarious if you’re winning, terrible if you’re losing. I got TK’d by Shazbot! somewhere near 10 times in one match, and the guy was literally getting mad at himself. He killed teammates a few times too, no one punished him though. [spoiler]He kept pre-emptive possible artillery striking me and the heal station because of popular artillery spots from the Arty Encyclopedia. (E.G. Through crack above green walls on Bridge. - You can’t see if enemies are really there, or friendlies) Close enough to where I usually plopped my heal-station.[/spoiler] Not to mention two of our teammates reactions were so insane and they were under the shoot-first: apologize-later stigma that I probably got teammate gun-killed 4 times.