Ranked Match - Point Distribution stats

(Arjun) #1

A few questions have been brewing up on my mind for a long time . Since many of my friends wasn’t able to answer these , It would be very nice if any CM or Devs could get an official input into this . @RazielWarmonic @Faraleth

  1. How much Points do we gain on a Win ?
  2. How much we Loose on a Failed match ?
  3. Does Surrendering costs us more points to loose ?
  4. How much point penalty do we get for abandoning a match ( unintentionally ) ?
  5. How much time do we have to get back into the game after a game crash without getting a penalty ?
  6. How much time it takes to leave the match without penalty after a teammate abandon us ?( similar to the 5th Q )
  7. Does me and my team gets the same amount of points or does it depend on the rank ?
  8. Lets say i crashed mid game . I came back ( lost all my previous scores ) but won the game . Do i get the same amount of points even if i had stayed ?

EDIT : added a couple more questions

(Remedica) #2

Afaik for 1. and 2. it depends of the ranks of the opponents. For example if you’re cobalt 1 and lose to team of unranked people you lose more points than you would if you played against team of elites.
And if you win team of elites you get alot more points than you would if you won team of unranked people.
(These are not 100% facts, these are just some things I’ve noticed)

(Arjun) #3

@Remedica
Thats some very interesting finding. So do you mean each member of my team get different amount of Winning points if they are all different ranks ?

(N8o) #4

Don’t mean to kill your hopes, but I doubt these will be answered. This information isn’t usually publicly available.

(Remedica) #5

[quote=“Arjun;144504”]@Remedica
Thats some very interesting finding. So do you mean each member of my team get different amount of Winning points if they are all different ranks ?
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Yeah exactly like this. But these are just observations I’ve made during my time on this game, so still reminding that I wont swear I’m 100% correct but I’m pretty sure this is how it is. (I’m Elite at this moment, so I’ve played few matches on MM ^^)

(Amerika) #6

[quote=“Arjun;144504”]@Remedica
Thats some very interesting finding. So do you mean each member of my team get different amount of Winning points if they are all different ranks ?
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The way it normally works in most games is you have a public rating that is viewable by everyone. This might be a number rating like what you see in WoW PVP or it might be a badge like you see in DB or CS:GO. Then you have a private rating which you might or might not see depending on the game (WoW lets you but DB does not). This is the rating the system thinks you’re currently capable of hitting.

So you might be a Gold 5 but the system actually thinks you’re capable of competing against people in the Cobalt rank. So you get put against people in Cobalt. If you lose your public rank is barely affected since you are a Gold 5 going against Cobalts but your private goes down more as the system readjusts what it thinks your skill level actually is. If you play long enough your public and private ratings start to match up pretty well.

If there is a lot of players then your rating will even out rather quickly and you’ll be mostly matched with other players/teams with the same private ratings.

I can go into detail as to why this works and how it works if you want but that’s the rough idea. But in short, if you lose to high ranking players, don’t sweat it. You won’t lose too much public rank (or sometimes any) and you’ll probably not be matched with that high of a team again assuming the system is working correctly (as in not flawed and has a enough players).

(Arjun) #7

@N8o - Thats really sad :confused: . Anyhow what about Question 3 and 8 ? it has less math and should be rather easy to answer

@Amerika
Thanks a lot for the info .

(SiegeFace) #8

@Amerika Probably why it took me 4-5 consecutive wins for the progress bar to go from 25% ish to 75% ish (Gold 5) only for it to be smashed down to around 50% after 1 loss, the loss was a pretty damn close and even game too, we just couldn’t manage to keep them from defusing at the end…

(Dawnlazy) #9

…yesterday I had a win that gave me zero progress, like not even a pixel, and I know one of the other players was Gold 1 because he’s a Steam friend of mine. The game before that gave me like 1cm and it was a total stomp versus quite clueless players, I doubt any were ranked higher than Gold 4.

Bonus: today we queued in a 5 man party with all being cobalt 3-1 at the same time as Lightning’s stack was queuing with players ranging from Gold 2 to Cobalt 1, then after 7 minutes we got matched… vs random <100hour of playtime unranked players.