Ranked : Leavers MUST be banned


(Begin2018) #21

I’m not bronze, I’m Silver Agent (Begin2013), I was Silver Master, but as Ranked is broken… Silver Agent => Silver Master => Bronze Master => Silver Agent. Even my lvl 105 friend is back to silver (from gold). Then he stop until they fix that sh*t. That’s why there is few players now, only leavers / low levels remains. I’m level 75 with 950h in-game, then I know the game and I know what I’m talking about…

EDIT: I did a last try:

And now uninstalling the game. SD is unable to keep their “old” players because their game sucks balls. When you do a multiplayer game, the minimum requirement is to have a working multiplayer. But both Ranked and CMM are broken and no news about 8v8 servers comeback. Their “weapon skins” won’t change anything to this!


(znuund) #22

how does stop playing the game going to make things better? Don’t you see that since they took over the game and hired a shitton of people, the game got much better? they are doing it the right way: they tidied up the whole game, implemented measures to observe the game and from there they can improve and tune the game.

Kids always expect that when they cry around that stuff gets fixed immediately…

Why don’t you make a little break, as it got to you quite hard. You shouldn’t take this so serious and have a look at it in a few weeks.

And in case you don’t give a shit about what I said above:
I don’t know a game where solo queue for ranked is enjoyable and fair at all times. I tried it in overwatch and dota2. IT IS A FUCKING HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE!
Try queuing with a friend, it makes a huge difference.


(frostyvampire) #23

So you want to get 1 week ban if your internet crashes?


(Begin2018) #24

@znuund said:
Try queuing with a friend, it makes a huge difference.
We tried, at 2, at 3, same sh*t, we always got people who never played the game in our team and/or left the party. Now none of my friends wants to play Ranked anymore as it’s totally broken.

The good time I got in that game was on 7v7 and 8v8 servers, but now they are gone. CMM is as broken as Ranked.

@znuund said:
the game got much better
Really? Except the addition of 3 new maps (Dome, Dockyard and Vault), the game isn’t better now than 2 years ago. In fact, the game was better 2 years ago!:

  • Trading 3 loadout cards for an higher one was better than the current system.
  • 8v8 and 7v7 servers was better than CMM (why hiding the player level?). Low level and high level people had specialized servers. Less time wasted in queue. Only grouping with friends was missing.
  • The game was better without the latest Mercs (especially Javelin and Fantom).
  • The addition of Execution was useless, just another waste of time and failure.
  • The new UI is fine, but the old one was fine too.
  • Most of the changes are useless/minor, don’t fix the main issues, but add more of them.
  • Terminal is one of my fav maps, I’m sad they are going to change it.

That’s enough reasons for me to uninstall the game now (yesterday in fact).


(Begin2018) #25

@frostyvampire said:
So you want to get 1 week ban if your internet crashes?
One week RANKED ban yes. Won’t be worse than currently as it’s unplayable anyway…


(frostyvampire) #26

@Begin2018 said:

@frostyvampire said:
So you want to get 1 week ban if your internet crashes?
One week RANKED ban yes. Won’t be worse than currently as it’s unplayable anyway…

You do realize it will be horrible right?
I’ll be fine with csgo’s system, but instantly 1 week is WAY too harsh. Even 24 hours for your first DC is just harsh and will do more harm than good.
Not every leaver is a rage quitter. Sometimes the game kicks you and you don’t know why, sometimes your internet or electricity crashes (which will now happen a lot more often because winter weather and stuff), or maybe somebody just had something personal so they had to leave. You shouldn’t be punished so harshly for just leaving once or twice.


(Begin2018) #27

Don’t forget there is already a ranked temp ban for leavers, it’s just way too short to prevent trolls/leavers to play Ranked.

But with a longer ban, at least only “serious” people will play Ranked, and the others CMM, as expected. Currently Ranked is same than CMM, or even worse.

Personally I don’t think it will be horrible to extend ban duration but way better. Currently Ranked isn’t Ranked but Trolls-land, and CMM Noobs-land.

As someone already said, a minimum requirement of level 30 to play Ranked is a good solution too, but too late for this season. While extending ban duration is super easy to do. Maybe one week is too much, then SD could extend it to 24h, and see if it’s enough or need to be extended again by 24h until they find the right duration to make the game interesting again.

Anyway, months after months Dirtybomb loose its player base, then if nothing is done the game will be very soon totally dead or only newbies/trolls will remains.


(Nail) #28

you can’t eliminate trolls or rage quitters, hissy fit idiots or disconnects
needs education, not punishments


(Begin2018) #29

The goal isn’t to eliminate them but to limit their toxicity on the game. Currently they make the game totally sh*ty! Then people, as me, leave the game (as we have no way to play only with/against people lvl 30-300).


(CyberVonCyberus) #30

I understand what you’re trying to say but even if no one left it won’t help with the fact you just got matched with 4 unranked newbies against a full party of cobalts and golds


(Begin2018) #31

you just got matched with 4 unranked newbies
Yes, and leavers.
against a full party of cobalts and golds
No, or unranked yet.


(ThunderZsolt) #32

@Begin2018 said:

@znuund said:
Try queuing with a friend, it makes a huge difference.
We tried, at 2, at 3, same sh*t, we always got people who never played the game in our team and/or left the party. Now none of my friends wants to play Ranked anymore as it’s totally broken.

If you queue up with 2-3 friends, that is almost the full team :open_mouth:
With a “squad” of 3 players you can fill all important roles on the team, and work together, covering each other.
On top of this, yin a party you can pre-define roles - unless you are all proxy mains, everyone can play at his/her most comfortable position. Also, since you don’t have to fit multiple classes in your squad, you can take “specialists” instead of “all-rounders”, because you know that you will have a good medic/engineer/assault/whatever your friends play on your team.
For example you can take Aura on defense, and Sawpapa on offense, or Turtle on def, Fletcher on atk

At this point I’d say if you still get rekt so hard that the rest of your team ragequits, it is your fault. And even then, if your team has new players, most likely the enemy team has them as well. In silver ranks soloq having no medic on a team is not uncommon, so you should be more than capable of winning 4v5 unless there is a party on the enemy team as well.

Sorry for being off topic, I don’t deny that playing 4v5 sucks. I’m all for harsher punishments, BUT the servers are very unstable at the moment. You can’t ban someone because the game started 4v5.


(znuund) #33

@Begin2018 said:
We tried, at 2, at 3, same sh*t, we always got people who never played the game in our team and/or left the party. Now none of my friends wants to play Ranked anymore as it’s totally broken.
If the problem persists and you are always a part of it, then you should consider thinking about what you do wrong or what you could do better. Honestly, if I had 2 or even just 1 guy in my team I could communicate with, I am pretty confident that we would be able to carry hard enough 4vs5.

The good time I got in that game was on 7v7 and 8v8 servers, but now they are gone. CMM is as broken as Ranked.
And they will be back.

  • Trading 3 loadout cards for an higher one was better than the current system.
    I really enjoyed that system as well. It was very awarding and cool to progress towards the first cobalt card. But you and me know that they are working at a new system at this moment.
  • 8v8 and 7v7 servers was better than CMM (why hiding the player level?). Low level and high level people had specialized servers. Less time wasted in queue. Only grouping with friends was missing.
    there is more to that than simply having a quick join option for a group of friends. It is not unusual to assume, that a group of friends can communicate and are generally better than each individual alone.
    So how about the experience of the other players who are not in a group? Especially casual play is for everybody - newbs and vets, potatos and pros.
    And the player level was hidden because people thought it meant skill, where it actually just means playtime. can give you a reference, if you want.
  • The game was better without the latest Mercs (especially Javelin and Fantom).
  • Terminal is one of my fav maps, I’m sad they are going to change it.
    We call that opinions, its something everyone has - like assholes.
  • The addition of Execution was useless, just another waste of time and failure.
  • The new UI is fine, but the old one was fine too.
  • Most of the changes are useless/minor, don’t fix the main issues, but add more of them.
    You might not consider the fact that you are finally not only customer but also tester of this game. The whole idea of adding and removing features is to test them and see how it works. For example CMM: How could they gather enough data, if they didn’t remove the server browser option? And then why did they leave objective on in certain regions? Could it be to see, how much of a drawback of connection you take into account to not play via CMM?

All this features just take time and especially - resources! Keep in mind, that they did not have enough resources before splitting with nexon. They hired a ton and are keep hiring in fact.

That’s enough reasons for me to uninstall the game now (yesterday in fact).
That is ok, you did not comply with rule #1 which is:


(Begin2018) #34

@znuund said:
Honestly, if I had 2 or even just 1 guy in my team I could communicate with, I am pretty confident that we would be able to carry hard enough 4vs5.
But none of my friends wants to play Ranked anymore as it’s totally bullsh*t. When they didn’t simply left the game.

The D*cks are leavers in Ranked, not people who give feedback about why they can’t play anymore with the current broken state of the game.

About levels, take a team of players lvl 5-10 and another one with lvl 50-70 players. Good luck to the team 5-10 to win the match! They will just cry to be spawn killed in Terminal and will ask to change the map…
Experience isn’t the whole Skill, but it’s a big part of it.


(Nail) #35

you uninstalled you say, why still here then ?

looking for sympathy ?

I can tell you where to find it in the dictionary

B)


(Begin2018) #36

@Nail: Why? The forum is only for people who haven’t uninstalled it? My feedback are probably more interesting for SD than your remark, you missed an opportunity to shut up.


(Nail) #37

afaik, the forum exists for those people involved in the Beta Test of Dirty Bomb, you’ve stated you’re no longer involved, can’t test if uninstalled. Seems you’re missing the opportunity


(Begin2018) #38

I have 900 hours of testing and there is nothing new. If I add the fact you are totally out of topic, really shut up…


(n-x) #39

@Nail said:
afaik, the forum exists for those people involved in the Beta Test of Dirty Bomb, you’ve stated you’re no longer involved, can’t test if uninstalled. Seems you’re missing the opportunity

Haha, thx for the laugh, @Nail . The forum for beta testers is obviously reddit. This is the forum for people who emberrass themselves by pretending that anything they post or discuss here has any impact.


(K1X455) #40

@n-x said:

people who emberrass themselves by pretending that anything they post or discuss here has any impact.

must be extremely embarrassing if your post gets stickied.