Quesiton about this game and hacks


(FHDB) #1

I talked in game a lot where player says there is no way to hack in this game, majority of the player defend hackers as to say its impossible. nexon anti cheat is to strong, no way he is hacking, you suck that all, and many more…

I will llike to know from the community respective view, its the game hard to hack? there are no hackers? its impossible to hack?

the reason I say this because I have reported many for hacks but always receive the same excuse from player when I say he is hacking…

so this is not to get out of control I just want to know YOUR point of view on this topic…

please leave all your opinion below if you may and have a wonderfull day


(Ardez1) #2

Every game is vulnerable to hacks and it depends on a lot of factors. One of the biggest is the engine. If people know the engine and it is fairly old then there are more known ways to hack the game.

In addition, most anti-cheat is primarily reactive. New hacks are very possible, but once they are detected they have to build a new one. That is how you can sometimes see hackers still today. New hacks that aren’t detected yet can slip through. One of the big reasons why the in game reporting feature is important is due to these new hacks. The more people who get reported the better.

Hackers will always exist, more for some games than others. It is not impossible to hack any game, you just need to know the engine and have some motivation. Like the old myth that Apple OS couldn’t be hacked is a complete fallacy. It just wasn’t profitable.

In your case you may be just fighting players who have a significant amount of skill. It is possible to feel like highly skilled players are hacking. This is primarily because you aren’t spectating them, seeing what they are seeing or think like they think. Most hackers are quite obvious and will be killing by the scores with relatively few deaths at all.

The reason for more hackusations is relative skill difference. Just because you aren’t able to match their skill doesn’t mean they have an unfair advantage. The next time you think somebody is hacking, try spectating them to see how they perform. You might learn something as well that could improve your own gameplay.

If you believe somebody is hacking it is better to report them and move on. Trying to call them out in the server won’t be effective unless it is quite obvious to everybody involved.


(FHDB) #3

Well said Ardez but on the part that you said

"In your case you may be just fighting players who have a significant amount of skill. "

ill counter it with this

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but thank you for a well written respond as a moderator I appreciate the fast respond I already report it through the ingame feature tho having alittle trouble with the feature on the submit request as its not going through for some reason [stuck on submit]…

so on that video you think he is maybe skilled player? XD or is he actually using a new engine that the game cant see?


(Ardez1) #4

@FHDB There is a strict no naming and shaming rule on these forums. I have deleted the content from your post the breaks forum rules. Thank you for trying to keep the game clean, but the forums is not the appropriate method to report a hacker.

Reporting it through the in game function should be sufficient if a player is hacking.


(FHDB) #5

sadly you still didn’t answer my second question its ok so long as I have on youtube its all good, I did the ingame and im sad to see that the other option is not working well anyway thanks for your answer have a good one [tho the part you said about skill had a great "maybe on it ^.^]


(Ardez1) #6

I didn’t answer your question because I didn’t watch the video. It is not my place to pass judgment on players. I will leave that to the GMs who respond to the reports and tickets. They have the power to do something about it and my opinion is irrelevant.


(Amerika) #7

If you believe somebody is cheating then you should report them in-game and probably leave the server. However, in my experience (and I have a YT channel full of videos to back this up), a lot of players who call cheats typically are not experienced enough to know what they are talking about. They simply want to call anybody who is better than them a cheat. Aimbots are easy to spot and quickly banned while wallhacks aren’t as effective in this game as they are in lower TTK and slower paced games like CoD or CS. At least not on pubs.

In discussions like this I always remember back to my first days learning Quake 3 Arena as a new player that was new to FPS games. I immediately thought everyone was cheating because I couldn’t fathom how a human could be that skilled. I even mentioned it on server a few times only to be laughed at by others no the server. And this is coming from a guy with a pretty successful sports background and is used to humans doing some crazy stuff consistently. Instead of getting angry and insisting to myself everyone was cheating it pushed me to figure out why I was getting beat so badly. Eventually I found some resources that allowed me to study and then excel at the game and pretty much every game after that.

So, when you call somebody a cheat on the server and most of the server responds with, “they aren’t cheating” then there might be a solid chance that the player is not cheating. Check their time played via their steam profile (accessed via the scoreboard). If you see they have 100+ hours in Dirty Bomb there is a solid chance they aren’t cheating because most people cheating, especially these days, are banned pretty quickly.

I would advise looking into resources out there that show off how good some players are. These same resources might also help you if you pay attention to what they do and apply it to your own game.

But when in doubt, report. Support can see a lot of things that us players cannot.


(Jostabeere) #8

Not much to say. It’s a free game, so cheats are available most of the time. And people frequently download and use them in the game, get reported or banned by NGS, create new accs, and cheat again. Not only noobs. I once came a cross a CS:GO pro player who blatantly aimbotted in DB. He denied it even after he got banned in CS:GO, 2 CoD games and DB itself and claimed it’s “skills”.


(gg2ez) #9

There a definitely cheaters in-game, you have to be really careful when making a solid hackusation though. More often than not, you’ll find players that know the game like the back of their hand - it’ll certainly feel like you’re playing against a hacker with them, but in reality, they’re just absolute beasts.

I was playing with a few mates on a pub the other night when a level 4 called literally the entire team hackers, truth is 4/6 people were just really good.


(MarsRover) #10

Sometimes I kill a 80-100HP merc with one Stark burst and in response I get “nice hacks” :slight_smile:


(Amerika) #11

Haha, yup! I get this all the damn time.


(doxjq) #12

The problem with the hacks is a lot of people look passed the subtle details when watching someone using a hack on minimal settings, and then give the hacker the benefit of the doubt and even defend the guy when someone is calling him out. There is plenty of people doing it, but putting the aimbot on very low settings, and because dirty bombs spectator mode is so delayed and sluggish it’s very hard to point them out.

Believe me when I say there is way more hackers than you’re probably picking up on too. Aimbots these days are incredibly customisable - I’ve seen one where you can literally change everything. How many degrees the aimbot works at, how long it waits before shooting someone, where you want it to hit someone (body, head, or both, or random) - you can even program them to purposely miss a certain percentage of shots. How fast the aim snaps when it sees someone (you can then choose a certain amount of smoothing to the aim if you think it looks too snappy etc etc) … So you can understand why it’s hard to pick up on it with some people. If they have it set to a low field of view, with high smooth aiming, random positions to shoot the enemy and missing occasionally etc, well go figure.

It’s even harder to pick it out when the player is actually good. It’s twice as easy to catch out a hacker when they are terrible because they have little game knowledge and generally no idea what they are doing. Someone who can already aim well and knows the movement mechanics of the game etc can hide it bloody well - It’s usually the consistency of the clutch “wtf” moments that give it away.

Seriously, youtube some videos on them, it’s actually ridiculous what you can do with aimbots now, and the problem will never go away. Who ever told you hacking wasn’t possible in Dirty Bomb is just full of it.


(Jostabeere) #13

@rancid NOOO GIT GUD! U JUST SUCK! THEY ALL GLOBAL SILVER ELITE IN CS:COD!


(doxjq) #14

[quote=“Jostabeere;141216”]@rancid NOOO GIT GUD! U JUST SUCK! THEY ALL GLOBAL SILVER ELITE IN CS:COD!
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Hahaha pretty much hey. 130/5 KD with Sparks and 100+ headshots = “I’m just good and you’re just jealous hahaha”


(Hexfest) #15

OffT
Best defence when hackusated ive heard in DB: “I got 5k hours in TF2”.

OnT
There will always be cheaters in fps games, it’s just a thing you have to count in. And people that have been seen as “pro’s” will be caught as cheaters now and then. But to accuse people in public you need to have some solid proof. There is way to many that just start to call people hacker just because they are simply good. Heck, even i get called hacker now and then, and i am not that good :D. I think it was yesterday i got called hacker because someone died aroound a corner from me, that it can be some latency or laggs he did’nt think of obviously.

I work (voluntary) against hackers in another game (BLR) where we have a pretty good system to get hackers banned from the game, needs a good collaboration with publisher and/or developer tho.
We have gotten hundreds of hackers banned. The game has no safety at all against hackers so it kinda needs our (people from the community) help.


(Sytry) #16

I talked in game a lot where player says there is no way to hack in this game, majority of the player defend hackers as to say its impossible. nexon anti cheat is to strong, no way he is hacking, you suck that all, and many more…

I will llike to know from the community respective view, its the game hard to hack? there are no hackers? its impossible to hack?

the reason I say this because I have reported many for hacks but always receive the same excuse from player when I say he is hacking…

so this is not to get out of control I just want to know YOUR point of view on this topic…

please leave all your opinion below if you may and have a wonderfull day

This topic is difficult talk about since depend on answers from the community forum. I have a profile in WOT game and if you talk about hackers/cheaters they don’t believe it.