Pre-order DLC Now Available for Purchase

(Jimmy James) #141

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Hugs,
JJ

P.S. (But seriously, I will stab you in the face with a rusty fork!)

EDIT:

I agree!

(felismenari) #142

So you’re complaining about Brink’s price drop, which happens to all games sooner or later? This is an illegitimate complaint.

They should have just given all the packs to those who pre-ordered for free since they are the people being screwed by this. I have already paid ~$20 more than anyone who has bought the game since the large price drop, I’m not about to go spending over $70 total on a game that can barely aattract enough players to stay alive. I was tempted to use the remainder of $20 worth of Microsoft points that I spent $15 worth on the new blops zombies maps, but I just can’t justify giving SD any more of my money the way they have treated me, so I bought a few Beatles rock band songs instead

Giving all bonus content to those who did pre-order a copy wouldn’t exactly be fair to those that didn’t. There are people who didn’t pre-order the game, but did however pay full price for it. Your logic is flawed.

(wolfnemesis75) #143

[QUOTE=Jimmy James;374550]Lunges at wolfnemesis75 with a rusty fork! Share this!

P.S. (But seriously, I will stab you in the face with a rusty fork!)
[/QUOTE]
Stick a Fork in me. I’m done!


What’s done is done.
I originally thought Pre-order items could not be sold later on.
There’s something positive about giving peeps what they want for a change.
If it gets people to play Brink; its fine by me.
It is all about team afterall.
So Fork You!
Ha ha ha! :slight_smile:

(Jimmy James) #144

[QUOTE=wolfnemesis75;374564]Stick a Fork in me. I’m done!

What’s done is done.
I originally thought Pre-order items could not be sold later on.
There’s something positive about giving peeps what they want for a change.
If it gets people to play Brink; its fine by me.
It is all about team afterall.
So Fork You!
Ha ha ha! :slight_smile: [/QUOTE]
+1 Rep as soon as I can! (Apparently I’ve been giving you too much rep lately.)

-JJ

(Kurushi) #145

Pretty late to this it seems. Last time I buy a SD pre-order. Kick in the teeth or what?

(wolfnemesis75) #146

[QUOTE=Kurushi;374671]Pretty late to this it seems. Last time I buy a SD pre-order. Kick in the teeth or what?[/QUOTE]Only if you paid for one. My copy of Brink came free with the Doom pack. :slight_smile:

(iezza) #147

i payed extra for the special edition REEFUUUND!

(wolfnemesis75) #148

[QUOTE=iezza;374685]i payed extra for the special edition REEFUUUND![/QUOTE]Now you have the bling! Stuff always goes on sale in this world, you know that if you wait long enough. It is what it is. At least it’s getting more peeps to play possibly. :slight_smile:

(BROTOX) #149

It’s only a couple of bucks people, get over it. And boo hoo to those who are mad because they will feel less special or “exclusive”. Again, get over yourselves and recognize the greater good.

(zenstar) #150

What greater good?
Using your exact same logic, if the bonus weren’t released the people who preordered could say “Boo-hoo stop whining. Learn to preorder next time”.
Your logic is flawed. Get over yourself and learn that your opinion isn’t necisarily gospel and that there are valid reasons to be annoyed about A) the preorders were released and B) the way in which they’ve been released.

(BROTOX) #151

Preordering only gave you one pack, but what if you wanted to collect them all? You would either have to buy three other copies of the game at different locations or scour the internet looking for shady craigslist exchanges for codes. Either way is not very practical. Selling pre-order content later as paid DLC is not a new concept because it is yet another avenue for the developers to make money. And it is for the greater good because everyone now has access to it for a small fee (you got yours free) which not only extends the life of the game but puts money back in the developers hands so they can in return produce more content. That is the greater good. That is how everybody wins. Sorry if you feel less special, I still assert for you to “get over it”. Or if your sore that the developers didn’t track every single persons pre-order and then give those people the other packs for free…and whatever argument you have about how they packaged the POC, again I assert that it’s only a couple of bucks each. It’s kind of sad to watch some people soil their diapers over such little money.

(Ojama666) #152

Yeah you’re not actually paying for the dlc, it’s an incentive to pre-order, I purchased the packs and love them :smiley:

(zenstar) #153

It’s not the money that’s the issue. I personally don’t mind too much that they released the dlc. I would have liked it to remain exclusive as a thank you for those who invested money early but the actual release isn’t a massive deal to me. I do mind that they package it in such a way that anyone who did preorder has to basically “rebuy” their preorder. Not to mention that some people did pay extra for their preorder content: GAME.co.uk was selling the preorder + bonuses for more than a preorder without bonuses. Also: their gave 2 bonuses (not 1) and the way the bonuses are packaged means that anyone who preorder those bonuses has to still buy both packs which means that they pay for 4 but get 2.
How is that fair in any way? Just because you don’t feel screwed on the deal doesn’t mean that people aren’t getting screwed on the deal.

As for the exclusivity: why shouldn’t something remain exclusive? Plenty of games have exclusive rewards for all sorts of things. L4D2 has the baseball bat for preorder customers. MNC has the cardboard tube samurai for PAX attendees. SD/Beth could have released the greeneye scope to everyone and then there’d be no valid “unbalanced bonuses” reason to release the DLC. Part of why I preorder things (not necessarily a big part, but still a part) is to pick up the pre-order bonus which I expect to either be an exclusive bonus or to have some nice incentive (such as 1st content expansion free to preorders). Releasing the bonuses as 2 packs in the way they have means it costs more per outfit for those of us that preordered. Is that the thanks we get for coughing up the full price before the game was released? That doesn’t seem like much of a bonus to me.
And when did it have to be practical to own all the bonuses? If you play a CCG and wanted to own a full set it’s generally not very practical to collect it all. That’s the price you pay for wanting completeness. And there are people who bought multiple copies to get multiple bonuses.

And the “you didn’t pay for the DLC” argument doesn’t hold water either. As I stated some places charged for the preorder bonus and even if they didn’t we paid by putting up money without receiving goods for a while. Not only does that mean interest is accrued on that money that we didn’t get but it also means that the publishers/developers get our money to help them finish the game and (econimically speaking) that makes our payment worth more because it comes at a time when the devs/publisher wouldn’t have otherwise made money from the product.
And the reason why some places were allowed to charge for their DLC is most likely due to Beth’s contracts & exclusivity deals. I do not blame a store for charging for something when their allowed to but they should have been contractually obligated to give the bonuses away free with preorders if they were meant to be “free incentives to preorder” otherwise what they are are day 1 DLC which is not a good thing.

As I have stated before: If they’d released the bonuses seperately then they wouldn’t have caused this mess (as much of a mess) and fewer people would have felt burnt. I’m glad you enjoy your new outfits but you have to realise that this leaves a sour taste in some of our mouthes, and your blind refusal to see that there may be an issue (along with your barely veiled name calling) does not help people calm down about the issue. It may get them to keep quiet because they tire of repeating the same simple to understand point but they will walk away less likely to support the game or any other game coming from Bethesda or SD because they will feel like they got the raw end of the deal.

So after all that I still assert that your opinion is not gospel and there are valid reasons for people to be upset by either the release of the bonuses as DLC or the way they are released. It’s nice that you’re happy about it. Not everyone is. Telling everyone who doesn’t share the same opinion as you to “get over it” is basically inconsiderate and rude especially when they have a valid concern.

For full transparency: I did preorder, but I went through steam which means I got the spec ops pack only. I refuse to buy the bonus DLC because I’m not paying for 4 items only to receive 3 on principal that that is a bad deal which has either been put together maliciously or negligently and I don’t like supporting hucksters or morons. If this is truly a mistake then they need to know how people feel so they can rectify it.

BTW: I do like the way you wave away valid complaints as “soiling their daipers” and “feeling less special”. I bet you don’t even know what an Ad Hominem attack is.

(Kurushi) #154

[QUOTE=zenstar;374803]It’s not the money that’s the issue. I personally don’t mind too much that they released the dlc. I would have liked it to remain exclusive as a thank you for those who invested money early but the actual release isn’t a massive deal to me. I do mind that they package it in such a way that anyone who did preorder has to basically “rebuy” their preorder. Not to mention that some people did pay extra for their preorder content: GAME.co.uk was selling the preorder + bonuses for more than a preorder without bonuses. Also: their gave 2 bonuses (not 1) and the way the bonuses are packaged means that anyone who preorder those bonuses has to still buy both packs which means that they pay for 4 but get 2.
How is that fair in any way? Just because you don’t feel screwed on the deal doesn’t mean that people aren’t getting screwed on the deal.

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This.
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(Jimmy James) #155

Not sure why people think money is the problem. Hell, I could buy all the “Customization Packs” 10x over with the money I spent on beer yesterday.

The problem is that by releasing the pre-order packs now it invalidates the whole concept of pre-ordering. Does Splash Damage really want to hinder their ability to sell future games with pre-order bonuses? Because I know I’m certainly not going to make that same mistake with this company. And what about the various distributors that got a customer’s business simply because of the type of pre-order pack they offered? Do you think they will be as motivated to work with Splash Damage and offer pre-order packs for their games in the future?

-JJ

(thesuzukimethod) #156

i feel like this thread has the potential to :expressionless:| infinitely, but i’ll comment nonetheless (if i chose not too, it just wouldnt be the internet.

@JJ - no doubt releasing the pre-order goodies to the scrubs (j/k) cheapens the notion of pre-order, especially given how much the price of the game dropped. I already rarely pre-order anything unless there’s an amazon credit for a number of reasons, but i think the days of exclusive pre-orders are over…there’s just too much money in it.

iff (geometry proof language), they use the extra money to pump a little life into the game…SDK, map packs, whatever, then that makes me less judgmental of them for doing so…(as opposed to just cashing in on the rest of the suckers (the first half of the suckers “paid” for the preorder by buying the games in advance, etc.)

finally, we can point fingers at SD all we want, but I’m pretty certain this was a Bethesda decision. which means it was a bottom line decision. again, if this means they decide…“hey, there’s a lot of interest in dress-up clothes for this game, i bet they’d pay for map packs too, let’s give SD a bit of $ to do so”…GREAT!

if it means Beth makes 3% more money off of brink. LAME!

(.Chris.) #157

[QUOTE=Jimmy James;375074]Not sure why people think money is the problem. Hell, I could buy all the “Customization Packs” 10x over with the money I spent on beer yesterday.

The problem is that by releasing the pre-order packs now it invalidates the whole concept of pre-ordering.[/QUOTE]

I thought pre-ordering was to make sure you got a copy of the game on release incase of shortages from the shop you’re buying from?

(Jimmy James) #158

Yeah, because of all those geeks camped out in front of the Best Buy waiting for their copy of Brink…

What are you talking about?

-JJ

(thesuzukimethod) #159

Not sure how it works in your part of the world, but IMHO, pre-order swung wildly in the last few years. originally, as you mention, a way to make sure you picked up your copy on release day w/o any concern over availability…Then, in order to get you to commit to pre-order (which gave them a sense of numbers in advance of release day), they started giving out little baubles or in game goodies on a very limited basis. The ebay market gouged the **** out of these to the point where your average GS (gamestop) employee would try and sell you on the pre-order idea b/c you could sell your pre-order code on ebay and “just about pay for the game”, etc. But now every game has a pre-order bonus, plus they do the crap where different stores have different bonuses, and often, Amazon will give you a 10-20 credit, simply for putting in your order in advance (or often still after) release day, so the notion of a “bonus” for pre-ordering is really quite different than it was, even a few years ago.

There’s probably a game theory argument in here somewhere. either that, or a Garret Hardin reference. either way, i think the pre-order thing is pretty much played out, but i’m notoriously cynical. so, meh!?

(.Chris.) #160

Yeah, that was what I was alluding to, pre-ordering has lost it’s original purpose, if your buying into all these pre-order exclusive crap then you only have your self to blame when publishers and retailers screw you over.