Poor Hunter

(Teflon Love) #1

Hunter: “Hello guys, I’m finally released!”
Crowd: “GTFO you bring nothing to the game anyone needs!”

Hunter: “But I can disable buildings with my EMP arrow!”
Crowd: “GTFO so can Phantom and he’s way cooler than you. With real ahole taunts, a big Katana and an all new rework that makes him so OP even 12 year olds can top score!”

Hunter: “But I have a nifty crossbow which can shoot arrows Hanzo style!”
Crowd: “GTFO you loser can’t even quickscope with that low speed arrow crap! Vassili rox you sux! And you don’t even have a scary looking hood!”

Hunter: “But I have cool hunter cap!”
Crowd: “GTFO from the distance you look like Phoenix but when we run up to you, you won’t give any healing pulse and just wasted our time!”

Hunter: “But I have a special looking limited edition pack (which probably is not really limited and will be available again some time in the future)!”
Crowd: “GTFO it looks exactly like the standard edition only that the artist ran out of color!”

Hunter: "But my silhouette is quite distinct, isn’t it?’
Crowd: “GTFO you are almost as fat as Rhino but all the Bikini memes are already taken!”

Update:

Hunter: “But c’mon, a crossbow! It’s so satisfying to pull and deliver a max damage headshot!”
Crowd: “GTFO Sparks’ REVIVR gives the same experience without the shot dropping off. And it can even revive friendly players every few seconds instead of delivering an EMP gimmick every blue moon!”

Hunter: “But I have this unique knife called Ulu!”
Crowd: “GFTO plain fists are more powerful than that toy! Let’s get Kiratana to enact the ‘That’s a knife’ scene from Crocodile Dundee.”

Hunter: “But I got this politically correct background story about native America!”
Crowd: “GTFO we want a real Indian not a washed out winner of a Santa Claus lookalike contest misnamed by a clueless Spaniard who couldn’t navigate his way out of a paperback! And we want a female Indian that looks like a lead actress in a Bollywood movie and turns out to be Nader’s mysterious lesbian girl friend, which ignites a spark in the DB fan faction scene and also makes future drawing contests way more inspiring!”

Hunter: “But I got all these great taunts about ancestral land and stuff!”
Crowd: “GTFO you are the only merc without a single fun taunt! Even Aimee delivering croissant jokes with her clumsy fake french accent and the emotional expression of a dead fish is a laugh riot compared to you!”

Hunter: “But, but… America!”
Crowd: “GTFO and (insert bad Donald Trump joke that derails the thread)”

(TheStrangerous) #2

Can’t say I’m impressed by him. He didn’t do the cut for me, despite thinking he’d be one of my most favorite ones.
That darn scope vision…

(Mc1412013) #3

@teflonlove said:

Hunter: “But I have a special looking limited edition pack (which probably is not really limited and will be available again some time in the future)!”

Lol hahahahahahahahaha

(Press E) #4

I had guessed he’d have a pretty bad reaction on release, but I didn’t think it would be THIS bad. Definitely doesn’t help that he’s totally overshadowed by phannyboi, but geez.

It’s basically sparks but fatter and without the entire point of playing sparks. And at least with sparks it’s easy to run away, but hunter can barely do anything in close range, just wiggle his arm at you.

The only real reason to pick hunter is if you’re into gimmicky crossbows like a lot of people are for some reason. Once you get past that, he’s really not that special at all

Granted I haven’t played him, but after several matches watching hunters miss every shot and then get meleed to death, it really does seem pretty bad. Not sure why SD thought we needed another long range recon in a game that’s supposed to be fast-paced, but oh well.

(Guziol) #5

I like him.

(Teflon Love) #6

@Guziol said:
I like him.

Hunter: “Boohoo! Everyone is so mean to me! Nobody likes me!”
Guziol: “I like you.”
Crowd: “Get a room!”

(Meerkats) #7

@STARRYSOCK said:
I had guessed he’d have a pretty bad reaction on release, but I didn’t think it would be THIS bad. Definitely doesn’t help that he’s totally overshadowed by phannyboi, but geez.
I used to watch a lot of DB streams. I don’t anymore because most people who stream DB and attract even a moderate number of viewers ( e.g., nine or more ) are generally better players, and they pretty much at some point all get fed up with SD.

After going around and seeing the reactions to this patch, I guess I won’t be watching any DB streams anymore. I think Lightning, Lightning of all people, has hung up his coat. This pretty much leaves only David and Henk, and Henk’s probably gone as well.

Hey guys! Everybody likes Snake in Metal Gear! We should totally add a stealth class who can go invis! And you know what else everybody likes? Hanzo and his dragon bow! We should totally add crossbows! What could possibly go wrong?!

Excellent patch, per usual, SD.

I guess it’s time to watch Star Wars: Battlefront II or VRchat streams now.

P.S.: I like how Hunter has an infinite mag, making the crossbow a gimmicky Dreiss that can be infinitely spammed, then turned into an one-shot monster.

(GatoCommodore) #8

@Meerkats said:

@STARRYSOCK said:
I had guessed he’d have a pretty bad reaction on release, but I didn’t think it would be THIS bad. Definitely doesn’t help that he’s totally overshadowed by phannyboi, but geez.
I used to watch a lot of DB streams. I don’t anymore because most people who stream DB and attract even a moderate number of viewers ( e.g., nine or more ) are generally better players, and they pretty much at some point all get fed up with SD.

After going around and seeing the reactions to this patch, I guess I won’t be watching any DB streams anymore. I think Lightning, Lightning of all people, has hung up his coat. This pretty much leaves only David and Henk, and Henk’s probably gone as well.

Hey guys! Everybody likes Snake in Metal Gear! We should totally add a stealth class who can go invis! And you know what else everybody likes? Hanzo and his dragon bow! We should totally add crossbows! What could possibly go wrong?!

Excellent patch, per usual, SD.

I guess it’s time to watch Star Wars: Battlefront II or VRchat streams now.

P.S.: I like how Hunter has an infinite mag, making the crossbow a gimmicky Dreiss that can be infinitely spammed, then turned into an one-shot monster.

Imo i feel its on par with Sparks

(RectalTerror) #9

Hunter being another useless sniper and Phantom now being the ultimate cheat piece, it’s all I needed to finally go try Overwatch.

(Da_Mummy) #10

I really feel bad for him.
I mean not to say I was excited for him but for some weird reason the weeb with the armored dress took the cake in this update.
Maybe they should have waited for one or the other because right now NOBODY gives Hunter a look.

(Teflon Love) #11

Just added a few more conversations to the initial post, some of them inspired by real forum feedback.

(Muddy Muddy Mud Nade) #12

He’s pretty fun, though I think his arrows are a little too easy to land, even with my garbage aim.

(LifeupOmega) #13

I just want the new pistol on other chars. Recons can otherwise eat fifty dicks.

(Xenithos) #14

@LifeupOmega said:
I just want the new pistol on other chars. Recons can otherwise eat fifty dicks.

This here sums up my experiences. I honestly do love him quite a bit (besides melee… that Ulu is by far the stupidest melee weapon I’ve ever had), especially since his arrows seem great until you switch to another character and remember that you can melt several people within a short time period with like the Hochfir or a Stoker with timik and drilled.

(Sorotia) #15

@Da_Mummy said:
I really feel bad for him.
I mean not to say I was excited for him but for some weird reason the weeb with the armored dress took the cake in this update.
Maybe they should have waited for one or the other because right now NOBODY gives Hunter a look.

Tell that to the three Hunters on my team that couldn’t manage to make a dent in the nest that our opponents were making on the platform in Underground…

(martha_smith) #16

hunter needs a lot of physics rework , his crossbow feels like a sniper rifle …

and his abilities aren’t satisfying…

(Stokes1) #17

His pistol sound like a dart gun…kinda like…pew, pew, pew. Really lacking lol Nice try though.

(Mc1412013) #18

Speaking of poor hunter

Funny black man back at it again with the funny shit

(bgyoshi) #19

After playing Hunter for the weekend I’ve determined:

The crossbow is strong when charged but really difficult to hit with. The game is just too fast to really use projectile prediction weapons. Not saying it can’t be done, it’s just difficult. I got used to the drop over distance pretty quick though. He’s also a pretty bad spotter, and using the crossbow without charging your shots is pointless.

His primary is really strong, stronger than most primaries or so it feels. Only problem is it only has 18 shots, so unless you’re hitting 60%+ accuracy, you’re going to need to reload before you kill a full HP merc. It’s also a close - mid range weapon, which makes sense. It’s useless at range but you’re supposed to use the crossbow obviously.

His secondary is nothing special. It looks neat, sounds neat, but it’s just like any other pistol.

The hit recognition on his melee is god awful.

His emp isn’t very useful in most situations. It flat out shuts off Bushy and Turtle but that’s really it. I would like it a lot more if it had a sustained EMP effect; many times I found myself trying to counter Fletchers and Proxies. It’d be really nice when you’re going up against a team of them and you could dunk an EMP bolt down and effectively temporarily shut off incoming mines and stickies. As it is now, unless the mine or sticky is already on the ground when the EMP goes off, it won’t be disabled.

Changes:

Give him two special arrows; EMP bolt and spot bolt. Spotting with Hunter is pretty worthless; it’s hard enough to hit players that it makes him an unreliable spotter. However, shooting a bolt into the wall to reveal enemies in the area would be nice. I don’t mean like Aimee, which has a sustained spotting. It would work like EMP bolts do now; on impact, it would spot all enemies in a certain radius in a burst. The cooldown could be short, too; 5 seconds or so, to put him on par with the sustained spotting mercs like Vas and Aimee.

Change the EMP bolt to have a sustained disabling effect, disabling all new devices for as long as the bolt is on the ground. The bolt should be strictly better than Phantom’s EMP burst. I dunno if this works currently, but you should make the EMP burst disable Phantom’s cloaking, and immediately decloak him, too.

On the line of EMP, give him 80exp per device disabled, instead of 100exp for disabling anything. How it is now is if you disable nothing, you get 20xp for shooting. If you disable a health station, you get 20xp + 100xp for disabling. If you disable a health station, ammo station, some proxy mine, and a turret, you get 20xp + 100xp for disabling. It should be 20xp + 320xp (80 * 4) in that situation.

Bump his primary ammo magazine capacity to 25 at minimum. 30 would be better, but I can understand 25.

Make him faster, he’s too slow. He should be able to chase down most mercs.

Fix the damn hit recognition on that melee, or at least make the effective area larger. It feels really inconsistent.