Please SD Buff Phantom!!!

[Olipops1]

I feel like phantom is in a really bad spot right now, I was really looking forward to a few buffs for him in the recent patch, but nothing… the sadness is so real.

How do you guys feel about this? Where are my phantom players at?

[Jurmabones]

I feel like he was nerfed to appease noobs, which we have to keep in mind is the largest part of any game’s population. So I imagine he won’t really see any buffs going forward because it’d just undo their noob appeasement. No offense is intended if you’re a noob or someone who is bad enough to think Phantom was really broken.

[cornJester]

I feel like he was nerfed to appease noobs, which we have to keep in mind is the largest part of any game’s population. So I imagine he won’t really see any buffs going forward because it’d just undo their noob appeasement. No offense is intended if you’re a noob or someone who is bad enough to think Phantom was really broken.

There was something really broken about Phantom that no-one can deny, it was his spin to win move. Right click and then rapidly spin around and kill everyone squishy around you. They however obviously fixed that and with such a heavy hand that they were still undoing the effects to melee in general in this patch.

Phantom needs some love though. He’s a guy with a cloak that is hardly a cloak at all. He’s far too visible, the only uses for his cloak are camping in one spot and using it as extra HP. That’s it. Please give us an actually stealthy cloak and remove the shield if you have to. We want to be spooky sneaky ghosts!

[Conqelson]

Give him something other than a “one trick pony” sword attack? Sure. Make said sword attack more powerful? No.

The good phantoms aren’t suffering right now because they are using their guns and shields tactically, not running in like berserkers swinging and dying, the validity of that play-style was nerfed for a reason and I have a feeling it will stay nerfed.

[cornJester]

[quote=“Conqelson;68505”]Give him something other than a “one trick pony” sword attack? Sure. Make said sword attack more powerful? No.

The good phantoms aren’t suffering right now because they are using their guns and shields tactically, not running in like berserkers swinging and dying, the validity of that play-style was nerfed for a reason and I have a feeling it will stay nerfed.[/quote]

His melee is fine right now. His cloak is not, it is far too easy for anyone to see. THAT is what I want buffed. I want it to be an actual cloak. His cloak is only useful for standing still or using it as a shield. I am even fine with them ditching the shield but I want him to be stealthier than he was before the nerf, especially when crouch walking. Come on SD, give crouch walking an actual purpose!

I essentially want Phantom to be the ultimate flanker, not a samurai wannabe.

[Olipops1]

I think that everyone can agree that my boii phantom needs some love

[Hazard1]

I think Phantom are still very good in the right hands. Don’t rely on the katana so much, though it’s tempting. Sit invisibly in a corner, wait till your enemy runs past, shoot <---- how I die every time today

[cornJester]

I think Phantom are still very good in the right hands. Don’t rely on the katana so much, though it’s tempting. Sit invisibly in a corner, wait till your enemy runs past, shoot <---- how I die every time today

How fun, a camping class… He could be so much more than a camper or bad Fragger.

[Reddeadcap]

[quote=“Hazard;68512”]I think Phantom are still very good in the right hands. Don’t rely on the katana so much, though it’s tempting. Sit invisibly in a corner, wait till your enemy runs past, shoot <---- how I die every time today

How fun, a camping class… He could be so much more than a camper or bad Fragger.[/quote]Agree with his visiblity, but if one were to sit still and wait for enemies his invisiblity would be easy to hear for those who pay attention.

[watsyurdeal]

His melee is not fine, the range on it is kinda trash atm, and not only that, the turn speed thing really isn’t necessary at all. They already nerfed the damage window, that’s really all they needed to do.

[cornJester]

His melee is not fine, the range on it is kinda trash atm, and not only that, the turn speed thing really isn’t necessary at all. They already nerfed the damage window, that’s really all they needed to do.

There is no longer any turn speed limiter on slashing attacks. Only his thrust. In other words only thrust unknowing people from behind. Giggity.

[watsyurdeal]

Even then, the thing is I really didn’t see an issue with Phantom other than that Armor on his cloak. Everything else, yes, even Beyblade mode, was fine. Because in any real game, unless people are simply trolling, it doesn’t do any good. The smaller damage window means there’s more emphasis on landing that hit, which is fine, but the fact that I can’t catch a Aura with a 180 stab or something similar, is atrocious.

Sorry, but there’s really no purpose in melee phantom right now, you’re better off learning to shoot people down instead.

[Viquel]

WIth the advent of Red Eye, Phantom is a complete joke in most maps. I feel he’s doing well in Subway, it’s small, cramped, and the largest area that can be observed is where you don’t want to be naturally anyways. Most other maps, Red Eye is doing his job of spotting stuff that tries to be sneaky, and putting a nice marker on it.

Who would have thought, that the stealth detector is necessary to balance the stealth class? That was completely unforeseeable!

I don’t know what you guys used to play before DB, but when I played TF2 (before f2p, actually - long time ago) , everyone was having eyes in the back of their heads or soon dead. I don’t see a problem in having a backstab ability that punishes careless play - Aura and shotgun-proxy is already a really hard hitting flanker.

[affableTricycle]

Phantom was definitely overnerfed, and nerfed in the wrong way as well. And I say that as someone who thought Phantom would be OP from the moment I watched the rolecall. Let’s take a step back to before he was nerfed. The forums and reddit had a general consensus that he should be more stealthy, less tanky, and beyblading should be removed. They made him less tanky, which is fine, but they also made him less stealthy, and the way that they removed beyblading made his melee useless. In his current state he is little more than Bushwhacker with the option to turn somewhat translucent and run around humming.

[Melinder]

I’ve been playing Phantom ever since he released. When he first came out, he was overpowered, I will agree with that, I was getting around 15k + pts and a 5.0KDR or above nearly every game. After the nerf, i believe he was put where he was meant to be. I still have no issue topping scoreboards 90% of games with him. Maybe if you spent your days in-game adjusting to the “new Phantom”, and not sit in forums crying and wasting time…

[Killerbee1]

I’ve been playing Phantom ever since he released. When he first came out, he was overpowered, I will agree with that, I was getting around 15k + pts and a 5.0KDR or above nearly every game. After the nerf, i believe he was put where he was meant to be. I still have no issue topping scoreboards 90% of games with him. Maybe if you spent your days in-game adjusting to the “new Phantom”, and not sit in forums crying and wasting time…

Still does not change the fact that his cloak is worthless against people with any sort of awareness. All he needs is buffs to his stealth, the rest is perfectly fine the way it is.

[Olipops1]

I know I’m going to be under some fire for this, but I strongly feel like his cloak in its current state is one of the weakest abilities in the game!!!