Please give fragger Stark AR

(chicHouse) #1

From last update, br16 is completly useless and Stark AR can replace this weapon perfectly.
Please remove br16 from fraggers loadout and replace it with stark. I want to play med/long distance with fragger now, because he is not good for close combats anymore.
thank you.

(BloodyGustav) #2

Somebody is trolling :stuck_out_tongue:

(chicHouse) #3

yeah sorry there is little trolling inside… but I think stark is better weapon now in close/med/long distances than br16

(BloodyGustav) #4

With 100% aim maybe but who has that, in cqc it’s terrible now.
On longrange it could work with Fragger, but midrange he has the M4 and K-121 which are in a total different league then the StarkAR.

(CCP115) #5

Hahaha. Ha. Ha. Oh you’re serious?

My friend, the BR is hands down the worst choice for Fragger. Do you have 100% aim? use the K121. Use the M4 Unshakeable loadout otherwise. BR-16 is not a good choice for Fragger, he’s meant to storm rooms and blow shit up, and the BR doesn’t let him do that. It’s too slow and hard to use. With a fully auto weapon, it’s much easier to spray and pray, or get kills.

(chicHouse) #6

[quote=“CCP115;102651”]Hahaha. Ha. Ha. Oh you’re serious?

My friend, the BR is hands down the worst choice for Fragger. Do you have 100% aim? use the K121. Use the M4 Unshakeable loadout otherwise. BR-16 is not a good choice for Fragger, he’s meant to storm rooms and blow shit up, and the BR doesn’t let him do that. It’s too slow and hard to use. With a fully auto weapon, it’s much easier to spray and pray, or get kills.[/quote]

br16 on fragger was my fav choice I even have 2 cobalt loadouts on him. It was great weapon, not a joke one, I loved its sound, it behavior, close range and mid range. I never used it with mouse wheel btw because it was impossible to aim properly for me that way. And now… even sound is terrible. --RIP–

k121 is not good for me and m4 i know how to play on skyhammer. Not getting nice results with M4+fragger, due slower speed of this merc.

br16 was perfect choice for fraggers speed, almost fluid.

(CCP115) #7

[quote=“chicHouse;102666”][quote=“CCP115;102651”]Hahaha. Ha. Ha. Oh you’re serious?

My friend, the BR is hands down the worst choice for Fragger. Do you have 100% aim? use the K121. Use the M4 Unshakeable loadout otherwise. BR-16 is not a good choice for Fragger, he’s meant to storm rooms and blow shit up, and the BR doesn’t let him do that. It’s too slow and hard to use. With a fully auto weapon, it’s much easier to spray and pray, or get kills.[/quote]

br16 on fragger was my fav choice I even have 2 cobalt loadouts on him. It was great weapon, not a joke one, I loved its sound, it behavior, close range and mid range. I never used it with mouse wheel btw because it was impossible to aim properly for me that way. And now… even sound is terrible. --RIP–

k121 is not good for me and m4 i know how to play on skyhammer. Not getting nice results with M4+fragger, due slower speed of this merc.

br16 was perfect choice for fraggers speed, almost fluid.[/quote]

I suppose if you’re comfortable with it, go ahead. I will say that Fragger’s best loadout is definitely the M4 + Unshakeable + Explodydendron combo.

K121 + Drilled is also incredible, the K121 does insane amounts of damage, all you have to do in return is be very conservative when firing, and Drilled actually speeds the animation up by insane amounts.

(Sterling) #8

[quote=“CCP115;102651”]Hahaha. Ha. Ha. Oh you’re serious?

My friend, the BR is hands down the worst choice for Fragger. Do you have 100% aim? use the K121. Use the M4 Unshakeable loadout otherwise. BR-16 is not a good choice for Fragger, he’s meant to storm rooms and blow shit up, and the BR doesn’t let him do that. It’s too slow and hard to use. With a fully auto weapon, it’s much easier to spray and pray, or get kills.[/quote]

You failed to consider the “personal opinion” factor before throwing a rude laugh. BR-16 was (haven’t used it after update) a great choice for those who could aim well and keep the bursts on heads. If I recall correctly, a burst did about 90 damage on the head. That alone gives an incredible edge against anyone in the game, and it also kills Proxy and below in less than half a second. A beast on the right hands and a burden on the wrong ones, basically.

(CCP115) #9

[quote=“Lee;103206”][quote=“CCP115;102651”]Hahaha. Ha. Ha. Oh you’re serious?

My friend, the BR is hands down the worst choice for Fragger. Do you have 100% aim? use the K121. Use the M4 Unshakeable loadout otherwise. BR-16 is not a good choice for Fragger, he’s meant to storm rooms and blow shit up, and the BR doesn’t let him do that. It’s too slow and hard to use. With a fully auto weapon, it’s much easier to spray and pray, or get kills.[/quote]

You failed to consider the “personal opinion” factor before throwing a rude laugh. BR-16 was (haven’t used it after update) a great choice for those who could aim well and keep the bursts on heads. If I recall correctly, a burst did about 90 damage on the head. That alone gives an incredible edge against anyone in the game, and it also kills Proxy and below in less than half a second. A beast on the right hands and a burden on the wrong ones, basically.[/quote]

After the update it got boosted to 102 damage.
But realistically, it’s incredibly hard and rare to land a perfect head burst, as there is always recoil, spread and enemy movement.
And honestly, if you like the BR, use it, sure. But honestly, the K121 and M4 are just better in more cases than one.

(ProfPlump) #10

[quote=“chicHouse;19533”]From last update, br16 is completly useless and Stark AR can replace this weapon perfectly.
Please remove br16 from fraggers loadout and replace it with stark. I want to play med/long distance with fragger now, because he is not good for close combats anymore.
thank you.[/quote]

One of the only things that Stoker, Kira and Arty have going for them is a unique access to the Stark AR, which is a better version of the more common BR-16 (which is also available to Skyhammer and Fragger). If you give the Stark to Fragger (or Skyhammer) it would take away one of the unique advantages from the fire support mercs.

Fragger’s good enough as he is.