please now its just harder to control m4, it would also be great buff for thunder.
i am sure moat people will agree with that, because it was mentioned soo many times,
make it idk higher ammo, and higher rate of fire with lower aim punch and damage, or slow firing weapon with big damage
it really isnt that hard!
The Timik is supposed to be the cross between an LMG and an assault rifle. It also has less DPS than the burst rifles and the Crotzni. I think that the weapon should have the DPS of the Grandeur, and nerf the burst rifles to have 125-ish DPS.
This is what I think should be done for the burst rifles:
Stark: 128.3 DPS
BR-16: 130 DPS
Timik: 136 DPS
Nah, the scope is the Stark’s thing, and the iron sights on the timik are fine, better than M4 at least
I think that the Timik should be buffed to a RoF of 510 rounds per minute (8.5 rounds per second) and having 16 damage per bullet. That works out to 136 DPS.
That’s a massive drop in DPS (think 2 bullets per second) unless your are talking rounds per second. Then it’s a massive buff.
If your talking DPS, it’s still subpar. The Timik was given extremely bad augments, and it needs to really deliver in those shoes.
For the annoying rats in the kitchen…
[spoiler]@Eox if you are going to keep putting that “disagree” reaction on my posts, give me a counter-point or bugger off.
Oh, wait, you are disagreeing with everything that says “Timik needs to be buffed” because bad players can’t cope with it. Look at the “Scrubs” trailer. It’s not meant to be balanced at the low levels.[/spoiler]
Second edition should rectify this I hope.[/quote]
I suspect that the “season 2” idea was a joke. I really don’t think that there is any evidence out there (aside from rumor) saying that such an idea would be coming through. Correct me if I’m misinformed though.
Even still, a “season 2” wouldn’t fix unbalanced builds.
I’m free to disagree with whatever I feel to. You don’t need to be agressive. It’s not like if I flagged you for no reason.
Timik is not a LMG : it’s an assault rifle. Your buffs would position its DPS above K-121, which shouldn’t be a thing. The stats you are suggesting are simply way too high : it would make the weapon donwright overpowered.
Calm down.
I think that the Timik should have a little more DPS to make it on par to an assault rifle that is very similar to an LMG. It has extremely unpredictable recoil and was paired with bad buffs on top of that. For a comparison, Fragger’s LMG buffs put it between the M4A1 and the BR-16, with the BR-16 being the top end in terms of weapon firepower.
If you want to have the Timik be an assault rifle, and be less powerful than Fragger’s LMG, then Fragger’s LMG needs to have worse buffs attached to it than the Timik, and the LMG needs to be better than the BR-16. That isn’t the situation that we see today.
The Timik already has a little bit more DPS than the M4. Also DPS doesn’t really matter that much, if you’ve 120 or above, you can win any engagement as other factors are way more important. For example, front loaded damage is in general always better than constant damage. Lower spread is better than higher spread. Higher RPM is often better than lower RPM, as it allows for more aiming mistakes, without punishing you too hard.
[quote=“JJMAJR;178048”]I suspect that the “season 2” idea was a joke. I really don’t think that there is any evidence out there (aside from rumor) saying that such an idea would be coming through. Correct me if I’m misinformed though.
Even still, a “season 2” wouldn’t fix unbalanced builds.[/quote]
There’s been multiple posts showing new cards over the past few days, and Splash did say they were reworking bad cards to be better and hopefully on par with the best so as to reduce the annoyance of getting “bad cards”. So yes, I think it’ll help tremendously assuming the Timik cards get some solid augments behind them.
These cards will be replacing the first edition we have now in most cases, with these older cards still being available in the shop at bronze tier. The newer cards however will be the new craftable cards from cases and trades.
[quote=“LifeupOmega;178596”][quote=“JJMAJR;178048”]I suspect that the “season 2” idea was a joke. I really don’t think that there is any evidence out there (aside from rumor) saying that such an idea would be coming through. Correct me if I’m misinformed though.
Even still, a “season 2” wouldn’t fix unbalanced builds.[/quote]
There’s been multiple posts showing new cards over the past few days, and Splash did say they were reworking bad cards to be better and hopefully on par with the best so as to reduce the annoyance of getting “bad cards”. So yes, I think it’ll help tremendously assuming the Timik cards get some solid augments behind them.
These cards will be replacing the first edition we have now in most cases, with these older cards still being available in the shop at bronze tier. The newer cards however will be the new craftable cards from cases and trades.[/quote]
Okay, new problem: what about all the broken builds like the Sawbonez+Crotzni combinations? If they remain in circulation they would end up poisoning the game with power creep.
and exactly how many no brains does it take to figure out that the dps is not the actual damage dps = is how many damage all the bullets fired from a gun can do not actual damage you deal to players to get a actualy damage u doing you must multiply your accuracy as a percentage out of actual dps
timik has about 128 dps and my average accuracy is about 17%
so that my actual dealing damage would be 128x0.17
so i deal about 21.76 damge per second.
and people up there put up a good point timik is not a lmg
that’s right it doesn’t have a quality of lmg
now you tell me does timik have 50+ round belt?
does timik have high damage or even a rate of fire compare to lmg?
no it is a assault rifle . it is design to be a mid ground of all automatic ( or assault weapons this game calls) and i see no point crying about the op or damage output because clearly is a assault rifle and they will have a limit
i don’t know what kind of balancing policy that this dev team has but they have no concept of balancing between risk and reward . timik has a high enough recoil comparable to a lmg in other words it should have a damge output of lmgs in return .but how ever in exchange it got nothing .
and even after all it’s patches gun never had it’s massive improvements in it’s performance
all it had was a recoil and spread tweaks which in general did nothing but make gun slight easiler to control .
and if devs go this way all they doing is making this gun with m4 with less stats
and if any of devs seeing this go and think about and give a damage buff to timik
and stop crying about dps and all that nonsense cause it is invalid
over all i would see weapon change to
damage per shot 16
rate of fire 525
magsize of 30
Timmik don’t need a buff , timmik is better than m4 in close range due to his better ROF , but a little bit more difficult at long range due to his higher spread.
Currently , M4 and Timik have good damage , good accuracy , low recoil , low spread, low ROF making these weapons effective in every situation and easy to use.
You can even face a Crotzni in close range , if you are both aiming the head , the Crotzni will without a doubt miss at least one shot due to the high spread before killing you , making the matchup equal , or in favour of M4/Timik.
Btw Automatic assault rifles shouldn’t have more dps than burst rifles , M4 recoil is so low you can only HS if you are accurate ( that’s why lot of High lvl players play it ) while you frequently miss one shot in a burst because you or your ennemy is constantly moving / or due to the high spread of burst rifles.
[quote=“AKULA;180239”]and exactly how many no brains does it take to figure out that the dps is not the actual damage dps = is how many damage all the bullets fired from a gun can do not actual damage you deal to players to get a actualy damage u doing you must multiply your accuracy as a percentage out of actual dps
timik has about 128 dps and my average accuracy is about 17%
so that my actual dealing damage would be 128x0.17
so i deal about 21.76 damge per second.
and people up there put up a good point timik is not a lmg
that’s right it doesn’t have a quality of lmg
now you tell me does timik have 50+ round belt?
does timik have high damage or even a rate of fire compare to lmg?
no it is a assault rifle . it is design to be a mid ground of all automatic ( or assault weapons this game calls) and i see no point crying about the op or damage output because clearly is a assault rifle and they will have a limit
i don’t know what kind of balancing policy that this dev team has but they have no concept of balancing between risk and reward . timik has a high enough recoil comparable to a lmg in other words it should have a damge output of lmgs in return .but how ever in exchange it got nothing .
and even after all it’s patches gun never had it’s massive improvements in it’s performance
all it had was a recoil and spread tweaks which in general did nothing but make gun slight easiler to control .
and if devs go this way all they doing is making this gun with m4 with less stats
and if any of devs seeing this go and think about and give a damage buff to timik
and stop crying about dps and all that nonsense cause it is invalid
over all i would see weapon change to
damage per shot 16
rate of fire 525
magsize of 30 [/quote]
It would need to be slower than that imo, that’s a fire interval of about 114 ms, I think it should be 133 ms instead.
[quote=“Sefuh_FR;180314”]Timmik don’t need a buff , timmik is better than m4 in close range due to his better ROF , but a little bit more difficult at long range due to his higher spread.
Currently , M4 and Timik have good damage , good accuracy , low recoil , low spread, low ROF making these weapons effective in every situation and easy to use.
You can even face a Crotzni in close range , if you are both aiming the head , the Crotzni will without a doubt miss at least one shot due to the high spread before killing you , making the matchup equal , or in favour of M4/Timik.
Btw Automatic assault rifles shouldn’t have more dps than burst rifles , M4 recoil is so low you can only HS if you are accurate ( that’s why lot of High lvl players play it ) while you frequently miss one shot in a burst because you or your ennemy is constantly moving / or due to the high spread of burst rifles.
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the only noticeable difference is bigger aim punch