You can’t spectate hackers in ranked to gather evidence and report them. This needs to be fixed ASAP, as there is no hacker prevention in ranked gameplay except screenshotting scores… which is not considered evidence.
You also can’t report players in game, so it is literally impossible to prevent/report hacking in ranked matches.
Yup, played a ranked no long ago, I was so fucking pissed that I decided not to go again. I was against him for 2 fucking games.
You know I’m not one for name and shame, but if you were his victim why not record getting shot at him from “fishy” angles at least
It still isn’t evidence of hacking though, which has been clearly stated by several Nexon/SD reps
And define fishy angles? Hackers aren’t always snipers if that is what you mean.
We had one who “rage” triggered on us in the second half after beeing fully stumped by us.
It was amazing he and his mates were crying for us beeing way to good and so on and then we all died to a skyhammer wielding a m4 shredding everyone leaving the spawn for good 4 minutes we still won due to our fast time as attackers but we had no kind of evidence other than getting headshotted really fast and all together but he wasnt “spinning” from head to head or doing something else fishy he could have been an incredibly amazing player just going easy on us for the first half.
Conclusion: Ingame recoding is needed as clear evidence to ban someone permantly.
you sometimes see them using a human-impersonating hack that makes very smooth and direct movements. it always looks the same, as if it’s the same player.
It still isn’t evidence of hacking though, which has been clearly stated by several Nexon/SD reps
And define fishy angles? Hackers aren’t always snipers if that is what you mean.
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Well if you knew for sure that he was hacking, then so will the Nexon staff if they watch your video.
I do agree of course that we need better cheat reporting tools in the long run. It’s a bit difficult without a working replay system though, so perhaps that has to come first.
It still isn’t evidence of hacking though, which has been clearly stated by several Nexon/SD reps
And define fishy angles? Hackers aren’t always snipers if that is what you mean.
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Well if you knew for sure that he was hacking, then so will the Nexon staff if they watch your video.
I do agree of course that we need better cheat reporting tools in the long run. It’s a bit difficult without a working replay system though, so perhaps that has to come first.[/quote]
That is the other thing, there is no way to prove that a player is hacking without being able to view them in action from their POV. Everything can be considered coincidental or just a skill difference from another players POV. The crosshair is key(usually).
Open beta is upon us… They should’ve implemented and tested decent anti cheat measures (they have been talked about extensively already on sd forum) before the start of open beta.
I think level for ranked should be upped to lvl 7 again or even higher:
Level 5 players only have the starter/rotation mercs and absolutely no idea how to play and they ragequit a lot!
Higher level for ranked also helps to keep cheaters out (because hopefully banned before) and people are less likely to create new accounts for a better rank or to “own some newbies”.
[quote=“Humbug;22381”]I think level for ranked should be upped to lvl 7 again or even higher:
Level 5 players only have the starter/rotation mercs and absolutely no idea how to play and they ragequit a lot!
Higher level for ranked also helps to keep cheaters out (because hopefully banned before) and people are less likely to create new accounts for a better rank or to “own some newbies”.
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I don’t think increasing the ranked level to 7 would help, as any current hackers are already unable to be stopped or reported. Increasing the level would only slow down future hackers. Increasing the level wouldn’t be a fix, only a delay ~ An extremely ineffective delay.
[quote=“Ardez;22385”][quote=“Humbug;22381”]I think level for ranked should be upped to lvl 7 again or even higher:
Level 5 players only have the starter/rotation mercs and absolutely no idea how to play and they ragequit a lot!
Higher level for ranked also helps to keep cheaters out (because hopefully banned before) and people are less likely to create new accounts for a better rank or to “own some newbies”.
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I don’t think increasing the ranked level to 7 would help, as any current hackers are already unable to be stopped or reported. Increasing the level would only slow down future hackers. Increasing the level wouldn’t be a fix, only a delay ~ An extremely ineffective delay.[/quote]
But it is not the whole point humbug stated. It is about rookies that join matchmaking and if the get stomped quit out fairly easy and I see that alot! They dont got a variety of mercs which makes them unable to be a real “team” (Some medics, a assault class, one sup and utility) that makes the game unplayable for anyone hoping to get a fair and competitive game! i would even go with level 10 where you need a lot of expierience to get to and therefor spend a good amount of time in it may got some mercs!
[quote=“Ardez;22385”][quote=“Humbug;22381”]I think level for ranked should be upped to lvl 7 again or even higher:
Level 5 players only have the starter/rotation mercs and absolutely no idea how to play and they ragequit a lot!
Higher level for ranked also helps to keep cheaters out (because hopefully banned before) and people are less likely to create new accounts for a better rank or to “own some newbies”.
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I don’t think increasing the ranked level to 7 would help, as any current hackers are already unable to be stopped or reported. Increasing the level would only slow down future hackers. Increasing the level wouldn’t be a fix, only a delay ~ An extremely ineffective delay.[/quote]
you can report hackers and they will get banned if they are cheating…
if nexon/sd is fast enough they don’t make it to level whatever, but level 5 is 1 match for a hacker 
You can check their Steam profile and report them there, but I have no idea if that does anything. Nevertheless, I’ve seen players with multiple VAC bans. That’s a bad sign.
[quote=“Humbug;22393”][quote=“Ardez;22385”][quote=“Humbug;22381”]I think level for ranked should be upped to lvl 7 again or even higher:
Level 5 players only have the starter/rotation mercs and absolutely no idea how to play and they ragequit a lot!
Higher level for ranked also helps to keep cheaters out (because hopefully banned before) and people are less likely to create new accounts for a better rank or to “own some newbies”.
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I don’t think increasing the ranked level to 7 would help, as any current hackers are already unable to be stopped or reported. Increasing the level would only slow down future hackers. Increasing the level wouldn’t be a fix, only a delay ~ An extremely ineffective delay.[/quote]
you can report hackers and they will get banned if they are cheating…
if nexon/sd is fast enough they don’t make it to level whatever, but level 5 is 1 match for a hacker :D[/quote]
To report a hacker you need evidence that SD/Nexon can look at to confirm. You CANNOT gather evidence in competitive. That is the point of this thread 
If a player doesn’t cheat until level 5, 6, 7, or whatever they make the minimum for comp, they can just hack in comp without getting reported.
[quote=“Aazhyd;22396”]You can check their Steam profile and report them there, but I have no idea if that does anything. Nevertheless, I’ve seen players with multiple VAC bans. That’s a bad sign.
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DB doesn’t use VAC, it uses xign
What’s the point about reporting à hacker ? There’s not just one hacker, there’s a lot more than that.
[quote=“Ardez;22397”][quote=“Humbug;22393”][quote=“Ardez;22385”][quote=“Humbug;22381”]I think level for ranked should be upped to lvl 7 again or even higher:
Level 5 players only have the starter/rotation mercs and absolutely no idea how to play and they ragequit a lot!
Higher level for ranked also helps to keep cheaters out (because hopefully banned before) and people are less likely to create new accounts for a better rank or to “own some newbies”.
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I don’t think increasing the ranked level to 7 would help, as any current hackers are already unable to be stopped or reported. Increasing the level would only slow down future hackers. Increasing the level wouldn’t be a fix, only a delay ~ An extremely ineffective delay.[/quote]
you can report hackers and they will get banned if they are cheating…
if nexon/sd is fast enough they don’t make it to level whatever, but level 5 is 1 match for a hacker :D[/quote]
To report a hacker you need evidence that SD/Nexon can look at to confirm. You CANNOT gather evidence in competitive. That is the point of this thread
If a player doesn’t cheat until level 5, 6, 7, or whatever they make the minimum for comp, they can just hack in comp without getting reported.[/quote]
you don’t have to gather evidence…
if you report someone they can look into it themselves.
they won’t ban anyone just because of your video anyway, it’s just easier/faster.
Three big reasons