[quote=“Watsyurdeal;106445”]if I’m taking a lot of damage I’m probably being too aggressive.
I think you’re confusing your priorities here, your goal as a medic should be keeping your team mates alive, not you. So if you saying Phoneix is a better single medic, then yes, but in most 5v5 you have two medics, and Sawbonez can do a lot better job at healing someone than Phoneix, and they’ll typically back you up and keep you alive so the self heal and self revive are more or less a mute point.
First of all, what are you doing behind enemy lines???
Second, stick with your team more and you won’t be killed as often.
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playing more defensive than offensive is the best advice to me ever, honestly
Okay, but almost every minute there is a situation where you are behind enemy lines (killed), almost killed somone or some teamates are injured while making a push forward and you want to revive your teammates but your lying on the floor and are not able to do anything[/quote]
First of all, what are you doing behind enemy lines???
Second, stick with your team more and you won’t be killed as often.
I think honestly it boils down to playstyle here more than whose better, but even then when you look at effectiveness and consistency, Sawbonez tends to come out on top in almost every scenario.
The only niche I see Phoneix fulfilling is a single medic, where you have just one Medic on your team in exchange for two assault mercs, or engineers, or fire support.
Otherwise for the pace of the game and just how good the medpacks are, Sawbonez is more than enough.[/quote]
If being trapped behind enemy lines is enough of an occurrence that Self Revive is more than just situational at best, you really need to reconsider your strategy. If you’re going to play that offensively, do everyone a favor and pick a Merc designed for that. You’re just using Phoenix to play aggressively and heal yourself between bouts, occasionally healing others.
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If being trapped behind enemy lines is enough of an occurrence that Self Revive is more than just situational at best, you really need to reconsider your strategy. If you’re going to play that offensively, do everyone a favor and pick a Merc designed for that. You’re just using Phoenix to play aggressively and heal yourself between bouts, occasionally healing others.[/quote]
I am not, I’m just trying to inmagine some situations where the self-rivive comes in handy
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If being trapped behind enemy lines is enough of an occurrence that Self Revive is more than just situational at best, you really need to reconsider your strategy. If you’re going to play that offensively, do everyone a favor and pick a Merc designed for that. You’re just using Phoenix to play aggressively and heal yourself between bouts, occasionally healing others.[/quote]
I am not, I’m just trying to inmagine some situations where the self-rivive comes in handy
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Those situations are so few and far between that predicating an entire Merc choice on it is unwise at best and legal insanity at its very worst.
[quote=“Samniss_Arandeen;106740”][quote=“Myself_Deal_with_it;106729”][quote=“Samniss_Arandeen;106711”]
If being trapped behind enemy lines is enough of an occurrence that Self Revive is more than just situational at best, you really need to reconsider your strategy. If you’re going to play that offensively, do everyone a favor and pick a Merc designed for that. You’re just using Phoenix to play aggressively and heal yourself between bouts, occasionally healing others.[/quote]
I am not, I’m just trying to inmagine some situations where the self-rivive comes in handy
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Those situations are so few and far between that predicating an entire Merc choice on it is unwise at best and legal insanity at its very worst.[/quote]
agree, but that doesn’t mean the self-revive can be usefull
a) if you’re playing offensively and extending that far in, the self revive will not be useful, they will gib you immediately after they down you because chances are you are by yourself.
b) the time it takes for it to get you back up and the cooldown afterward, pretty much means you HAVE to stick with your team mates, to prevent the gib and get back up, and hopefully stay alive till the next revive comes.
So I think it really just comes down to how you play Phoneix, and from what you are telling me it seems like you’re being too offensive, personally I feel like Sawbonez would better fit your playstyle once you’ve adapted to him.
[quote=“Watsyurdeal;106855”]The problem with the self revive is
a) if you’re playing offensively and extending that far in, the self revive will not be useful, they will gib you immediately after they down you because chances are you are by yourself.
b) the time it takes for it to get you back up and the cooldown afterward, pretty much means you HAVE to stick with your team mates, to prevent the gib and get back up, and hopefully stay alive till the next revive comes.
So I think it really just comes down to how you play Phoneix, and from what you are telling me it seems like you’re being too offensive, personally I feel like Sawbonez would better fit your playstyle once you’ve adapted to him. [/quote]
You’ve convinced me.
I still think Sawbonez has to be an engineer too
P.S. i am already adapted to him, i played him alot.
I use Phoenix to sneak through contaminated zones and catch enemies by surprise. It’s very satisfying, and surprisingly enough the Phoenix can be very helpful if there’s a group of people camping a tight space, allowing me to unexpectedly sustain the firepower done by my teammates.
The Phoenix is very versatile. However it has the same issues as the Proxy does in defense, where it can’t hold a position as well as it can attack. Maybe have the Pheonix use longer ranged weapons instead, like snipers and scoped rifles?
No, that makes him better than Sawbones in that case.
But meh, I guess all medics have that same weakness, so why does it matter?
[quote=“JJMAJR;106940”]I use Phoenix to sneak through contaminated zones and catch enemies by surprise. It’s very satisfying, and surprisingly enough the Phoenix can be very helpful if there’s a group of people camping a tight space, allowing me to unexpectedly sustain the firepower done by my teammates.
The Phoenix is very versatile. However it has the same issues as the Proxy does in defense, where it can’t hold a position as well as it can attack. Maybe have the Pheonix use longer ranged weapons instead, like snipers and scoped rifles?
No, that makes him better than Sawbones in that case.
But meh, I guess all medics have that same weakness, so why does it matter?[/quote]
Proxy can totally hold a defensive position and attack. It doesn’t contribute to the OP, but just saying.
I had an epic inner battle between my need for knowledge show-off and hiding nice (niche) valuable (gimmicky) secrets (stuff no one cares about), but the aforementioned did win… Yea Phoenix can actually get past contaminated secondary tunnels with 1 self-rez and pulse
Sawbonez is fine, I prefer him over Phoenix, he is way more effective as a medic than phoenix, as phoenix’s healing ability is radial and has a cooldown.
Sawbone’z Med Packs,with effective use (not skyhammer-esque ammo spam) can continually heal players to full health with minimal cooldown.
[quote=“SiegeFace;107466”]Sawbonez is fine, I prefer him over Phoenix, he is way more effective as a medic than phoenix, as phoenix’s healing ability is radial and has a cooldown.
Sawbone’z Med Packs,with effective use (not skyhammer-esque ammo spam) can continually heal players to full health with minimal cooldown.
