Phantom problem

nuttyNavy · 2015-10-07 17:33:27 UTC

First of all, I have done everything with a Translator So excuse me if is something wrong! So, I have the Char Phantom bought when he came out again.
In my opinion, this was not to Char Op special players who played it were very good. But that the Phantom was gedowngradet I find sad! Den when he was better, I have a gold card for him made me what now sh * t …
Aufjedemfall I would like that the Phantom is made stronger again (my opinion), or that you can also reset the cards again in the future (or just me my cards get back: P)
Thank you

Rosenkreuz · 2015-10-07 20:41:57 UTC

His killing potential is fine (even though his Katana is kind of buggy) and he has access to two really good SMGs. He really only suffers from an overly obvious Refractive Armor and some really bad loadout cards. If they could just fix his Katana’s stab attack and make his Refractive Armor not so obvious audio-wise, he’d be a lot stronger.

nuttyNavy · 2015-10-16 17:24:11 UTC

Wie gesagt, ich kann es nicht verstehen nur weil er neu raus gekommen ist und ihn natürlich nur die pros gespielt haben sind alle ausgerastet. (Selbstverständlich kaufen sich nur pros diesen char als er neu raus kam). Bei mir sieht es immer so aus: Wenn ich unsichtbar bin sehen mich alle gesehen. Oder ich stehe hinter einem gegner und schieße ihm in den Kopf und diese person schafft es noch sich umzudrehen und mich zu töten. (alle spieler!!! und ich glaube nicht das diese alle hacken). Ich finde es einfach blöd das ein Char den ich für 10€ gekauft habe so arg runter gepacht wird das er nicht mehr spielbar ist… (wieder alles in einem Übersetzer geschrieben)

terminal2 · 2015-10-16 17:28:28 UTC

Yea I like apples too

Kirays · 2015-10-16 19:15:04 UTC

He’s german.
I’ll translate.

He does not understand why Phantom got nerfed.
Once a merc comes out all experience players buy him/her to test him/her out asap.
That’s why everyone raged about Phantom.
When he plays him, everybody is able to see him.
Even if he manages to get behind an enemy and starts shooting him in the head, he just turns around like nothing happened and kills him.
He’s really angry that a merc which he bought for 10 euros gets nerfed so badly that it’s unplayable.

If you like, add me on Steam.
I have the same name there as here - Kirays

cornJester · 2015-10-16 19:38:31 UTC

[quote=“Kirays;95148”]He’s german.
I’ll translate.

He does not understand why Phantom got nerfed.
Once a merc comes out all experience players buy him/her to test him/her out asap.
That’s why everyone raged about Phantom.
When he plays him, everybody is able to see him.
Even if he manages to get behind an enemy and starts shooting him in the head, he just turns around like nothing happened and kills him.
He’s really angry that a merc which he bought for 10 euros gets nerfed so badly that it’s unplayable.

If you like, add me on Steam.
I have the same name there as here - Kirays[/quote]

It’s definitely not unplayable though and if he IS experienced he will know this. If he is trying to be melee only then that isn’t very viable. If he uses his gun mainly then you can still do serious work with Phantom.

Nimron · 2015-10-16 22:12:34 UTC

Phantom: easy 2 learn, hard 2 master

RyePanda · 2015-10-17 01:16:48 UTC

I find phantom fun to play, but you have to use your katana sparingly. Prioritize using your primary weapon.

nuttyNavy · 2015-10-22 14:21:28 UTC

I know does i have to use my katana but i crafted a golden card and i got a knife >_<
With a knife you cant play as Phantom!!!

Someordinaryguy · 2015-10-22 15:19:29 UTC

Then play Phoenix or Bushwhacker, both are a lot better when using SMG.

IMHO Phantom’s primary should be katana, that’s his only “selling point” and what makes him unique (along with RA)

HoopleDoople · 2015-10-22 16:06:15 UTC

Phantom seems like he exists solely for pub-stomping newbies. Every time I see an ally go Phantom in competitive I get annoyed because Phantom brings so little to the team.

If the devs aren’t going to bother reworking his cloak or adding a new ability to make Phantom have a real role, the least they can do is provide a couple minor buffs. First and foremost, every loadout card should come with the Katana. If variety is desired add additional Phantom only melee weapons that are viable for combat in place of the Stiletto and Combat Knife.

Next, the Blishlok should be removed from Phantom loadouts and replaced with the Hochfir or SMG-9. The Blishlok is clearly the worst of the primary-only SMGs, and no Phantom is going to choose it over the Crotzni or KEK-10 (at least once the Katana is on all loadouts). The fact that the Blishlok is Phantom’s default weapon just adds insult to injury.

Matuno1 · 2015-10-22 16:50:17 UTC

He’s too gimmicky to ever be ‘fine’. I still enjoy playing him, and I’m pretty successful with him too as a kind of assault type.

It’s a game of peek-a-boo with him, where you move a little closer when they’re not watching, and stand still when they’re looking your way. As mentioned, the Katana is pretty sweet, but you’ll use his guns more. I can take out the medics of an advancing wave pretty easily, create pure chaos, and allow my team to use that moment to sweep up the rest of them.

Heck, you can cloak up in the middle of a corridor (most corridors are full of pipes and other visual noise that make you absolutely invisible), let the high HP players pass you and stab a medic (or two) in the heart as she tries to run through you too.

Grave_Knight · 2015-10-23 11:56:53 UTC

[quote=“HoopleDoople;97455”]Phantom seems like he exists solely for pub-stomping newbies. Every time I see an ally go Phantom in competitive I get annoyed because Phantom brings so little to the team.

If the devs aren’t going to bother reworking his cloak or adding a new ability to make Phantom have a real role, the least they can do is provide a couple minor buffs. First and foremost, every loadout card should come with the Katana. If variety is desired add additional Phantom only melee weapons that are viable for combat in place of the Stiletto and Combat Knife.

Next, the Blishlok should be removed from Phantom loadouts and replaced with the Hochfir or SMG-9. The Blishlok is clearly the worst of the primary-only SMGs, and no Phantom is going to choose it over the Crotzni or KEK-10 (at least once the Katana is on all loadouts). The fact that the Blishlok is Phantom’s default weapon just adds insult to injury.[/quote]

Phantom in comp really only works if he has a mic or if SD would finally give him a marking ability. As for combat role, he should really focus on killing medics and snipers (as well as clear out turrets and healing stations). I don’t agree with every loadout should have a katana. The knife adds a little speed that makes him a bit more mobile (though it means he’ll have to rely solely on his primary in combat which isn’t bad). As for replacing the Blish, I rather they just buff the Blish so it’s as viable to as the Hochfir (Blish’s DPS is such a joke).

nuttyNavy · 2015-10-23 12:04:44 UTC

Before Phantom got nerfed i played every time with his Katana and I also crafted a golden card for him… But the card is fukin bad! I have a Knife bad Pistol and the Blishlok…
Its annoying!!! You cant play with this card.

Grave_Knight · 2015-10-23 12:19:29 UTC

[quote=“nuttyNavy;97798”]Before Phantom got nerfed i played every time with his Katana and I also crafted a golden card for him… But the card is fukin bad! I have a Knife bad Pistol and the Blishlok…
Its annoying!!! You cant play with this card. [/quote]

Oh, you have one of the BL cards. The BL94 wouldn’t be so bad if the Blish wasn’t such a joke but the other two Blish loadouts themselves are a joke (Drilled and Quick Draw are’t bad but Quick Eye and Springy suck).