Phantom Complaint Master Thread


(cornJester) #301

No, not time for a new Phantom QQ thread… Post that mess here, the active thread going on about Phantom complaints… http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/13737/phantom-complaint-master-thread/p10

I’d be less annoyed at this if you offered solutions on how to fix it instead of just listing the problems you have with it, this in no way deserves it’s own thread.

EDIT; It’s also already confirmed he is getting nerfed, so please guys stop spamming the forums with it.


(cornJester) #302

Another special snowflake thread with nothing to really add. Not even a specific suggestion, just “give him something else.” Why is your generic complaint so special that you couldn’t post it in any of the other threads, like this one? http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/13737/phantom-complaint-master-thread/p10

Anyways they aren’t going to take away his cloak, or invisibility “hack” as you call it. lol It’s not even really invisible, you can easily see them moving as a shadow if you pay attention. Only when they are absolutely still are they close to invisible. If you cannot learn to deal with his cloak you are out of luck, that’s his whole deal and they aren’t gonna change that though he will be nerfed in other ways.


(Ardez1) #303

@cornjester That thread was created to place this type of post into. I avoid merging any constructive threads into it.


(Roxas) #304

Hello there,

Since his release I’ve played against quite a lot phantoms and all I can say is that this Merc is literally the incarnation of “Low risk high reward”.
He has awesome mobility, a ridiculous low cooldown on his invisibility cloak, insane meele damage and he doesn’t even need to properly aim with his katana due to the range.
Just because he is a meele merc you shouldn’t add too much features.
Sure Phantom is what seperates the good players from the bad and it’s fairly easy to deal with bad players but as soon as the Phantom player has a little understanding of what he is doing he becomes a pain in the ass. Sure he does what he is supposed to do but he does it waaaay better than he should.
Combined with a decent SMG this guy can clear servers like nothing especially if you aren’t using some kind of voice chat with ur team.

If I think of “Stealth Meele Assassins” I instantly think about the glasscannon. High Risk - High Reward.
Phantom however doesn’t even need to risk anything to get whatever he wants.

gg needs fix rito pls

//Yeah it’s short but you got the point


(spiderwolfx) #305

the phantom merc is no good with that invisible hack why dont they take that away and give that merc a different spec


(cornJester) #306

@Ardez I don’t think I have been directing any actually constructive threads to this. If they had included any actual suggestions on how to change things I wouldn’t have cared.


(waggishVoice) #307

God, phantom is such a bullshit class. 1 hit kill from any angle, CAN ATTACK WHILE INVISIBLE AND INVINCIBLE, can attck while sprinting… I wish I had a drop of gasoline for every time I tried to go through a door just to get instakilled by an invisible phantom, because I would use it to burn whoever designed this fucking class alive


(XavienX) #308

All I can say in this thread is… damn.


(bumbertyr) #309

a katana phantom is a scrub phantom :trollface: .


(Eox) #310

They are already aware of the issue :


(Nail) #311

[quote=“eminenceLimit;14541”]dear developers i feel that the game has some balance issues one of them being phantoms ability to go invisible thats uncool and it stays up way to long also their needs to be a better system for balancing players skills for game match ups thanks for listening
[/quote]

pretty sure Troll


(loonyTop) #312

Whatever happens with Phantom is one thing, but as long as Phantom users realize they are the lowest form of life in the game and not pretend they are good players who are helping the team then most people will be a bit happier.


(titaniumCrouton) #313

http://www.timesnews.net/data/gnpics/2010/563787salt.jpg


(spectrrrrrre) #314

Today I got stabbed by a katana so hard that my game crashed

so OP :frowning:


(loonyTop) #315

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/63513371.jpg


(irishrOy) #316


(quartzLadder) #317

The damage resistance is too much, it takes most of my clips playing with SMGs before my shots actually matter. I feel it’d be a little more balanced if he went fully invisible without the damage resistance.


(titaniumCrouton) #318

I’d take that. Full invisibility just to give up the crappy armor? Hell yeah >_> Good trade.


(disguisedArcher) #319

Im getting agitated by Phantom. Its annoying to see that jerk up at the top of the lists on both teams nearly every game. There is no hard counter to him and he requires much MUCH more counter play to be even half as effective against. Yes Rhino can somewhat deal with sometimes, but thats assuming the Phantom isnt busy one shotting all the squishies.

When I die from most people, its because I lost a firefight or made a mistake, when I lose to phantom I feel cheated because he instantly kills me and has barely any tell. If I see him, I need the ability to actually kill him please.


(Sheriff_of_Megaton) #320

I have phantom and i am using the bl94 excellent operative loadout card. I do consider him a bit too powerful but definitely not unbeatable. If/when he comes into rotation, Redeye should definitely be there with him.

Also, for this supposed Nerf that is about to happen, i say simply remove the SMGs and give him the empire-9 and equivlent Machine pistols, or at least the less effective SMG’s, not the best ones (KEK 10 and Crotzni). Also the invis-armour should have the damage carry over to his health bar (If his shield has 50 health and he takes 100 points of damage, the shield will negate 50 of the damage and the remaining 50 will affect his health bar. Overall i say that these changes will keep him in the role as an invisible ninja, he is a melee character and giving him SMG’s goes against this archetype.

Simply replace the SMG’s and fix the shields damage absorption, nerfing any more will make him far too weak.