Phantom Changes


(novelJoke) #1

Played him a good bit now and faced him.

When I think of a “phantom” type assassin I think of a fast moving quick kill type. This guy is more a zerker bruiser with invis atm. Would like to see his shield removed (be able to be damage through invis), quicker movement speed somewhere around proxy/aura, and less base hps around 90-110. His melee damage/gun would be fine if those adjustments would be made and that to me would be more like an assassin :smiley: .


(debonairRogue) #2

If he has the movment speed of proxy or aura his health would need to be reduced to 80. i’d prefer 70 just because his katana can ohk. but good idea

plus don’t you think he’s not invisible enough? I find it overly easy to spot him for what he is. even across the map sometimes


(novelJoke) #3

[quote=“debonairRogue;46431”]If he has the movment speed of proxy or aura his health would need to be reduced to 80. i’d prefer 70 just because his katana can ohk. but good idea

plus don’t you think he’s not invisible enough? I find it overly easy to spot him for what he is. even across the map sometimes[/quote]

Yeah it’d be nice if the farther he was the more invis he was/closer the more visible.


(capriciousParsely) #4

Full cloak, no shield and to use his weapons there should be a small animation for him uncloaking; like the Spy from TF2.


(frolicsomeCrane) #5

Are you guys high?

Phantom is meant to be tankier than the squishy medics… Look at his damn design even, he’s one of the few mercs that’s actually wearing combat armor. He shouldn’t be toned down health-wise, if he would then he would make everyone cry. There are a few mercs that counter him really hard and for some reason people don’t realize that this game is not about kills. It’s about objectives.

Phantom is god-awful at doing objectives, sure he can plant a c4 here and there, but can he repair anything, disable/escort an EV? No, you won’t find phantom doing that, instead, he’ll be running around looking for easy kills and pickings.

Phantom is meant to be a disruptor of the teams that have medics camping in one spot with their entire team alive with a health station. Phantom fills the role of disruption perfectly, the reason why he can’t one shot anyone above Arty’s health is because that those mercs have a fighting chance against him.

Any other merc that gets one shot by Phantom OUTRUNS HIM for a reason. Their speed is the reason why Phantom gets them in one shot, their playstyle is also that reason.

For example, Aura can keep her whole team alive with amazing regen with a healthstation and not to mention the revives, Sparks is basically a walking necromancer that keeps at a distance and while her team is on the frontlines battling the enemy team she can keep them coming up while being in a safe spot away from the battle, Kira has a skill that can decimate teams if used right and it’s even more dangerous than Skyhammer’s airstrike, Kiras tend to forget that there’s a battle around them and they just move the Orbital Strike around getting kills left and right and while the enemy team is running for cover, Phantom doesn’t have to do that, when Kira can pin down the enemy team Phantom can get rid of his team’s problem regarding Kira, Proxy has mines that can instantly down any merc, Phantom can get rid of her mines (and her) by just keeping his Refractive Armor on when he intentionally or unintentionally runs over one.

The reason why Phantom has so much hp is also the reason that if he would be faster then even his most obvious counters (And I’m gonna list one: Fragger) would be afraid of him, most players don’t realize that this game is about moving around and not sitting in one spot, Phantom is the one that has to punish the players for not sticking to the game’s actual code while him, has his own downfall of not respecting the game’s code of doing the objective.

This is the reason why despite whether or not he may be Godlikex5 he could still lose the game. He is completely dependant on his team to actually win and do objectives, even if he kills all the enemy mercs by himself, he still can’t do the objective so he relies on his team.

I kinda feel sorry for him.


(bike123) #6

I think if they should double cooldown time for his SA.


(Alphafox) #7

The thing people don’t realize is that Phantom cloak will be 100% useless the moment RedEye or even Aimee is released. The Refractive armor will be required, his primary ability will be absolutely destroyed by every other recon classes.