Petition to give Kira the Katana

[Nesodos]

then dont call it what it isnt in the first place

[solace]

[quote=“Nesodos;150981”]SD already stated that they wont give the mercs any different weapons than they already have

btw its no katana, its a ninjato[/quote]

I just don’t understand this. Why say that and limit mercs to certain weapons and classes of weapons? It doesn’t make sense. Yes, certain weapons should not be available to certain mercs, but, if they ever got rid of the loadout card system, I would love to maybe use stoker with the crotzni or KEK.

I think the loadout card system just needs to go. I have made suggestions in the past about how they could do it. But, sadly, the chances are very low.

[Laionidas]

then dont call it what it isnt in the first place

I called an ingame object by the name it carries,… ingame, WOW, SUCH STUPID I AM!

Apart from the obvious sense in that, it is probably also the most correct way to designate an otherwise non-definable object.

[quote=“succinctDeer;153534”][quote=“Nesodos;150981”]SD already stated that they wont give the mercs any different weapons than they already have

btw its no katana, its a ninjato[/quote]

I just don’t understand this. Why say that and limit mercs to certain weapons and classes of weapons? It doesn’t make sense. Yes, certain weapons should not be available to certain mercs, but, if they ever got rid of the loadout card system, I would love to maybe use stoker with the crotzni or KEK.

I think the loadout card system just needs to go. I have made suggestions in the past about how they could do it. But, sadly, the chances are very low.[/quote]

I’d also like a useable MP-9 build, other than SM41 Nader.

[Amerika]

SD said they wouldn’t give mercs different weapons in the second set of loadout cards than they already have. I take this as primary and secondary weapons. I’d wager melee weapons might still be moved between the mercs for the new cards. Especially since SD also made it very loud and clear at Phantom’s release that his sword would be available to other mercs in time.

[Naonna]

If they give proxy or aura the katana, i found a new main. - Not efficient but very fun.

[Nesodos]

@Laionidas
well, you started the discussion that ninjatos dont deserve to be mentioned
you said that ninjato never existed, yet they do since this type of sword was defined by hollywood

i never said its not called a katana, i just said its not what its called ingame

[Mr_Hands]

[quote=“Jesus;150875”][quote=“Laionidas;24260”]Or at least a tanto:

[spoiler]http://www.nihonzashi.com/tanto_pictures/tsunami_tanto_640_2802.jpg
http://www.yamatobudogu.com/v/vspfiles/photos/023-067-4.jpg[/spoiler]

Come on, you know y’all want it, and there is nothing wrong with indulging in a bit of racial stereotyping once in a while =D[/quote]

In this case i want fletcher to scream Allah Akbar madafaka everytime he gets unstoppable with stickies
[/quote]

jesus please

[Laionidas]

[quote=“Mr_Hands;154162”][quote=“Jesus;150875”]

In this case i want fletcher to scream Allah Akbar madafaka everytime he gets unstoppable with stickies
[/quote]

jesus please[/quote]

Following that logic, Sparks should be able to walk through contaminated areas, and brush off the damage with an ability that allows her to down a bottle of vodka.

[quote=“Nesodos;153900”]@Laionidas
well, you started the discussion that ninjatos dont deserve to be mentioned
you said that ninjato never existed, yet they do since this type of sword was defined by hollywood

i never said its not called a katana, i just said its not what its called ingame[/quote]

No you didn’t, you just replied “it’s not a katana”, after which I immediately told you I was referring to the ingame denomination and affirmed it was a Hollywood invention. Read back your own bloody posts:

[quote=“Nesodos;150981”]btw its no katana, its a ninjato

I think it’s called a katana ingame. Ninjato is a Hollywood invention, the result of using cheap props (straight blades are easier to make for cheap props), it never actually existed. The closest thing to a Japanese straight sword would be a chokuto.

[/quote]

The “sword” ingame is neither a real Katana nor a Ninjato, but at least it is called a Katana. Trying to correct that by calling it a Ninjato, which it also isn’t, and which indeed, it being a Hollywood invention, does not deserve to be mentioned, is plain retarded. Continuing to argue that a Ninjato is in fact a Chokuto makes it even worse.

I did not start any discussion, you did by bringing up the whole Ninjato thing, which was both irrelevant (we were talking about the ingame item), and wrong.

[sgtCrookyGrin]

here’s my two cents on the Katana we all loved and hated

What you felt and thought it was like with the katana

What is actually happening

We don’t need to give anyone a Katana since it really is a “novelty” but hey, as long as it’s balanced and fun I’m all for it.

[JJMAJR]

[quote=“sgtCrookyGrin;155758”]here’s my two cents on the Katana we all loved and hated

What you felt and thought it was like with the katana

What is actually happening

We don’t need to give anyone a Katana since it really is a “novelty” but hey, as long as it’s balanced and fun I’m all for it.[/quote]

Probably have something strong to go with the Katana since it’s basically reducing movement speed. Like focus, quick eye, and chopper.

[Naonna]

…Why not let the katana 1shot again with mouse2 post nerf? - at least there’d be SOME perk to using it, even if it encourages risky play, since you’re losing movement speed and an opponent shouldn’t really be getting that close to phantom anyways. Vass can 1shot you across the map. What’s wrong with phantom killing you point-blank? Keep in mind that at the moment a shotgun shot to the head basically instakills phantom.

[Laionidas]

We don’t need to give anyone a Katana since it really is a “novelty” but hey, as long as it’s balanced and fun I’m all for it.

I think the Katana works fine as long as you treat it as just another melee weapon. The thing is that Phantom was (at least presented as) being build around it. As such it just fails.

Giving it to other mercs as an alternative to the cricket bat, beckhill, stiletto, or kukri should still be fine though.

…Why not let the katana 1shot again with mouse2 post nerf? - at least there’d be SOME perk to using it, even if it encourages risky play, since you’re losing movement speed and an opponent shouldn’t really be getting that close to phantom anyways. Vass can 1shot you across the map. What’s wrong with phantom killing you point-blank? Keep in mind that at the moment a shotgun shot to the head basically instakills phantom.

Snipers and shotguns still need to aim for the head, and slow reload on shotguns make that you can get outmanoeuvered quite easily when you miss. Getting close with the Katana is difficult, but once you have, connecting that blade is way too easy with a few swings. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the Katana’s current killing speed, it’s just that Phantom can’t get close enough. If they’re gonna make the Katana OHK, they better only do it for headcuts.

[HunterAssassin5]

I think I was supposed to laugh at a joke when I came here, but now I’m just confused

[Sorotia]

They named it a Katana, because Katana is a iconic and known name of a sword…the Katana is a powerful weapon…

I swear it’s like they designed Phantom to be a mixed bag combination of a Ninja and a Samurai…his stealth is definitely Ninja like, but his gear is very reminiscent of Samurai armor.

If someone asked you which sounds more familiar, Ninjato or Katana, which do you think more people would answer? There is why it is called a Katana most likely…plus the Katana was a chosen weapon of Samurai…

Phantom is a odd duckling mix…but he is what he is…and Katana is a more well known weapon.

[SereneFlight1]

If Kira would get katana, we need her to say “Nippon banzai!”

[Laionidas]

If Kira would get katana, we need her to say “Nippon banzai!”

Definitely, but she should use a really high pitched voice, as is tradition for Japanese war cries:

I think I was supposed to laugh at a joke when I came here, but now I’m just confused

It was intended mostly as a joke, but the more you think about it the more it seems that it may actually viable.

The sword classification flame war was just something on the side. It was never about that, but again someone didn’t get that.

[Nesodos]

[left]never supposed this thread was about what kind of sword it is and if you think that was flame then you didnt browse a lot of internet yet
it can still be classified as “harsh discussion”

i know i made a mistake at first and thought it was a ninjato, it actually is nothing more than a sharp piece of metal told to be some kind of sword, nothing else
sd plays with the names of the weapons such as the fel-ix / cat thing and hints the origin of its designs, calling it katana would mean they oriented on japanese swords

but still the crucial point is that SD stated they wont give existing mercs new weaponry, dont know if they broke their word before though and i hope they have not in the past already but thats what they said

its only reusable for new mercs[/left]

[Splicer]

[quote=“sgtCrookyGrin;155758”]here’s my two cents on the Katana we all loved and hated

What you felt and thought it was like with the katana

What is actually happening

We don’t need to give anyone a Katana since it really is a “novelty” but hey, as long as it’s balanced and fun I’m all for it.[/quote]

Lmao I’m seeing these everywhere on the forums.