Peaked out from a corner with Javelin & double gibbed 2 people today. Thanks SD

(KayDubz) #1

Title says it all.

Jav needs a nerf. It makes no sense that shes the only merc who can insta gib during ground battles without any air support or much warning for the other team. That dual instagib was ridiculous

(Mc1412013) #2

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(KayDubz) #3

@Mc1412013 said:
But if they nerf her she will be useless against ev more than she already is. 3-4 rockets to take out ev at least

You can make her strong against the EV without allowing her to instagib opponents in ground battles. I mean fragger used to have TWO frag nades that could gib people on direct hits.

Now he has one nade that doesn’t gib, and a 17 second cool down.

(Press E) #4

@Mc1412013 said:
But if they nerf her she will be useless against ev more than she already is. 3-4 rockets to take out ev at least

So? I mean, it’s bad enough that she’s the best ammo giver at the moment, might as well leave something for the other firesupport mercs to do.
Not to mention the damage values don’t have to be the same. She can do her 333 damage to the EV and 200 to mercs.

The way I see it, most of the maps are already defender sided. It’s hard enough to find an engi that will actually repair, and I’d rather not spend the entire match just repairing the EV. It has enough things that destroy it.

(GatoCommodore) #5

explosion damage does 1.4x to EV and generators

javelin needs to tone down the damage.
Currently she deals 200dmg on impact while fragger only does 170.
Make it 170 damage like fragger.

the fact that her gun is legit awesome and she can replenish her own ammo is already more plus that fragger.

(watsyurdeal) #6

People complain about how op her ability is, yet I still get more annoyed by Nader, Stoker, Kira, and Arty.

Not only that, but literally 90% of my kills are the Shar C

(Press E) #7

@watsyurdeal said:
People complain about how op her ability is, yet I still get more annoyed by Nader, Stoker, Kira, and Arty.

Not only that, but literally 90% of my kills are the Shar C

Javelin being OP as shit doesn’t mean other mercs can’t be OP as well.

(watsyurdeal) #8

@STARRYSOCK said:

@watsyurdeal said:
People complain about how op her ability is, yet I still get more annoyed by Nader, Stoker, Kira, and Arty.

Not only that, but literally 90% of my kills are the Shar C

Javelin being OP as @$!# doesn’t mean other mercs can’t be OP as well.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut that’s the point, if everything is op then nothing is.

Please don’t take that seriously, I haven’t had decent sleep in two days

(FishRolls) #9

Her default primary is a better blishlock with no recoil and her rocket launcher is a better frag grenade that more than makes up for the cooldown.

(emjot) #10

I’m fine with Jev, but I have some concerns:

  • The ninja launch - you can’t say if she’s aiming at you with rocket (long distance), with Kira, Arty, Sky you can at least know the point of boooom drop.
  • Damage to generators:

Underground - attackers.
It takes one rocket + one (IIRC) ammo clip to destroy gen on the right, in the meantime there is C4 planted on the left one. It’s really hard for defenders (or maybe they were just newbs) to fix doors if there is someone watching the right side. Each time I played with my friend we destroyed medbay right after we got right doors.

And, that’s all I think. I will be fine if they won’t nerf it, and I will be fine with the nerfs.

(GatoCommodore) #11

@FishRolls said:
Her default primary is a better blishlock with no recoil and her rocket launcher is a better frag grenade that more than makes up for the cooldown.

most automatic weapons in this game has no real recoil.
there are spread tho…

(Xenithos) #12

She only needs two nerfs, Drop her HP down to 110
And have her announce her rocket launcher or some other painfully loud sound so people know to move or prepare (Maybe even add a half second to firing time).

Honestly, she’s not that op, just a little stronger with her entire kit put together the way it is. The only times it really sucks is when you don’t know it’s coming and there are like 4 of her. (But then again, that same case can be made for 90% of mercs in this game, 4 fraggers is retarded, 4 naders or 4 proxies are as well) Her cooldown makes up for the reason it does more damage, and she DOES have to be mobile to give ammo to teammates.

If you just add these two things in, and see how it feels, I think you’ll find Javelin is actually fairly well balanced. Her gun is also extremely well balanced. It takes skill to use it, and it’s damage output is similar to other assault rifles, while lower than the bursts.

(znuund) #13

she actually cant really give herself ammo that well. played here today and i ran out of ammo all the time.
I agree that she should be much slower with rpg out and have the charging shot announce somehow

(Szakalot) #14

35sec cooldown and a W:ET loud ‘Im shooting here!’ sound is a good place to start.

(TitaniumRapture) #15

Well proxy can sometimes instagib with her mines too.

(Sithas) #16

@TitaniumRapture said:
Well proxy can sometimes instagib with her mines too.

And proxy is hated as much as javelin, i wonder why…

(KayDubz) #17

@TitaniumRapture said:
Well proxy can sometimes instagib with her mines too.
When does proxy instagib a full health Merc with a single mine?

Javelin is the only merc that can instagib indoors with a single attack.

Hell other air support mercs can gib with their ability…but only if their airstrike direct hits and more than one missle hits you.

(TitaniumRapture) #18

@KayDubz said:

@TitaniumRapture said:
Well proxy can sometimes instagib with her mines too.
When does proxy instagib a full health Merc with a single mine?

Javelin is the only merc that can instagib indoors with a single attack.

Hell other air support mercs can gib with their ability…but only if their airstrike direct hits and more than one missle hits you.

You can disagree as much as you want but it happens. That body usually even disappears. I know that because i play medic 95% of time and it always makes me upset. :slight_smile:

(Your worst knifemare.) #19

I wouldn’t even mind Javelins damage as long as she didnt instant gib everything she hits.

(KayDubz) #20

@TitaniumRapture said:

@KayDubz said:

@TitaniumRapture said:
Well proxy can sometimes instagib with her mines too.
When does proxy instagib a full health Merc with a single mine?

Javelin is the only merc that can instagib indoors with a single attack.

Hell other air support mercs can gib with their ability…but only if their airstrike direct hits and more than one missle hits you.

You can disagree as much as you want but it happens. That body usually even disappears. I know that because i play medic 95% of time and it always makes me upset. :slight_smile:

I never see a proxy mine gib on full health and she’s one of my main mercs. If you claim to see it…please report that as a bug in game. Because a year or so ago, devs removed gibbing from most attacks when mercs were at full health.