PC controls - Keyboard layout

(tokamak) #241

Do your fingers lack bones?

(murka) #242

Movement is relative. You’re pretty much saying that you have trouble finding your way home because the Earth revolves around the Sun thus the position relative to it is very different etc. For a hand the mouse does not move. As fingers are connected to the hand they also don’t move relative to the mouse.

Unless you have serious motoric skills and move fingers relative to your eyes for ex you shouldn’t have any problems with it.

Your keyboard layout requires you to move your arm quite a lot. A normal configuration only needs minute movements in rare cases. Unless your pinky is near your thumb(which i don’t find surprising), you can’t use both of them for buttons in the same area.

(Kinjal) #243

Such KB controls just a habit of Horse, and it’s not a good habit I must say.

(H0RSE) #244

Movement is relative. You’re pretty much saying that you have trouble finding your way home because the Earth revolves around the Sun thus the position relative to it is very different etc. For a hand the mouse does not move. As fingers are connected to the hand they also don’t move relative to the mouse.

Let me break this down Barney style for you…

The mouse, and any buttons attached to it, are all part of the same system, so if you are pressing/holding a button while looking around or aiming, essentially the button you are pressing is also moving. With a trackball, the buttons remain stationary from the aiming - they are 2 separate things that work as one.

It’s not poor motor skills (since using a trackball is easy) - my hand eye coordination is fine. It has more do do with me left handed, or to be more accurate, extremely left handed, and using my movement device in my right hand just feels awkward. I grew up in a right handed household, so using a mouse/trackball in my right hand was just how I learned. With a trackball, nothing is moving - the whole device remains in place, and I just need to move my fingers.

A mouse is more of a “motion controller” - you are using “motion” (the mouse) to “control” your movements - the entire device moves.

A trackball is more like “controlling motion” - you are “controlling” (using your fingers) your “motions” by directing it where to go - the device remains stationary. I find it easier to do this.

Your keyboard layout requires you to move your arm quite a lot. A normal configuration only needs minute movements in rare cases. Unless your pinky is near your thumb(which i don’t find surprising), you can’t use both of them for buttons in the same area.

Actually, I don’t have move my arm a lot. All my “important” buttons, are located around the movement keys (and I had down to muscle memory). The only time I really need to move my arm, is if I want to directly select a weapon, or use a vsay, and even then, I could it in a fraction of a second. Do you use the same setup as me? Same keyboard? Same trackball? No, you don’t. So you really have no say in what works and what doesn’t.

I’m not saying my setup is better than any other. I’m just saying this is what I use, and it works the best for me.

(murka) #245

GL&HF with that setup, hope to see you with the top clans in Brink.

But still, i must know how your thumb magically touches ctrl or shift when your 3 fingers are on the arrow keys. Does it go under or over your palm? Have you shattered the bone to make it bend?

(H0RSE) #246

But still, i must know how your thumb magically touches ctrl or shift when your 3 fingers are on the arrow keys. Does it go under or over your palm? Have you shattered the bone to make it bend?

If you must know, I bend my thumb in towards my palm and pinkie, and use the side of my thumb to press the button. When I do this, it tilts my hand slightly. My other fingers remain on the arrow keys, just at a different angle.

(.Chris.) #247

You’ll have arthritis sooner than you may be hoping for.

(H0RSE) #248

Nah. Drumming is what will most likely give me problems later.

(.Chris.) #249

I’m curious about your drum kit layout now…

(H0RSE) #250

lol, oddly enough, it is also strange. When we went into the studio for the first time, the tech said it was the weirdest setup he had ever seen.

(abrain) #251

I also use arrow keys, only with a different setup then yours.
Cant get used to the wasd its a nightmare for me to use.

(Crytiqal) #252

Ok, I hope it works for you Horse :wink:

But to say that the buttons on a mouse mvoe, is false to me.

I move my wrist to move my mouse, thus my fingers stay in exactly the same position over my mouse buttons at all times. So relativly, they are not moving, thus pressing those mouse buttons don’t require my fingers to be any more inaccurate then to when my wrist would be still.

Does it go under or over your palm?

Imaging this made me laugh :smiley:

Thanks for the time explaining tho Horse, im not having a go at you or your setup, I was just curious and fascinated :wink:

(Nail) #253

Did you here about the bass player who locked his keys in the car ?

took him 4 hours to get the drummer out

(Cankor) #254

[QUOTE=Nail;252369]Did you here about the bass player who locked his keys in the car ?

took him 4 hours to get the drummer out[/QUOTE]

3 musicians and a drummer go into a bar…

(jRAD) #255

This thread seems to have run its course…closing it all down!