Online bugs / Crazy overpowered bots

(DissapointedCustomer) #1

If the host leaves a game online the objective percentage is reset while the game time is not, leaving the offensive team at a disadvantage as all of their hard work is wasted when the game restarts. Will this be fixed in the update this week along with the lag patch?

Also the bots are stupidly over powered on the defending team while most of the time the bots on my team do nothing other than stand near objectives or just run around dying, what the hell gives? Makes the game impossible to play on most occasions as theres hardly anyone online as it is anyway and playing against teams filled with super god powered bots just isn’t fun anymore…:confused:

Would really appreciate some feedback even if it’s just to say “yes we realise that is broken and we will fix it” as I feel like I’ve been pissing into the wind for 2 weeks now posting on these forums. Even went as far as trading in my 360 copy of the game which was making me want to gouge my eyes out, and I’ve been marginally happier with the PS3 version when it works every 5 games or so. Please do something about these issues or this game is just going to die on both consoles. :eek:

(ataliba) #2

I’m experiencing the same problems on ps3… and why there’s never anyone online?

(DissapointedCustomer) #3

I think it’s just about what time you go on really. Today I was getting games with 3 or 4 people max all afternoon til about 5 when I got one nearly full game for once, still lagged like a bitch though :confused: Another problem is people joining games in progress and not wanting to play half a game before having a full one so they leave instead of waiting, this is were the lobby system would be really useful so you can wait for a full game before even starting the match.

Quite sad to have to write this kinda stuff on here, all this seems like basic common knowledge for having a solid online game (for consoles) and they’ve included non of it :confused: Shows what developers will do to cut costs and turn over a profit :rolleyes:

(Nail) #4

"Shows what publishers will do to cut costs and turn over a profit "

fixed that for ya

(DissapointedCustomer) #5

[QUOTE=Nail;321091]"Shows what publishers will do to cut costs and turn over a profit "

fixed that for ya[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the input!

(DissapointedCustomer) #6

Add to the list, joining a match and not actually being able to spawn regardless of what team I change too, just stuck watching the counter over and over again :rolleyes:

Why even bother putting in connection statuses in the online matches when they mean sod all as well? Just been in a game were all players on both teams were on “green” connection while the game was still lagging all over the place. The lag wouldn’t be AS bad if you didn’t lie about it :rolleyes:

Why is there no autobalance of teams when joining a game or even mid game as well? Half the time I join a match to see 1 player facing off against 3 or 4 and the game seems to think I want to be on the larger team? hmmm…

Really is pissing annoying to spend all of the game attacking while your dumbass bot team mates run around going for pointless com stations over the main objective the majority of the time and generally not doing anything. They’d be more help if they just followed me to the objective then stood around as they’d be a good disraction, but no instead its just me getting to the objective then getting mowed down instantly by 5 defense bots that just stand there, lock onto you from any direction then pop two bullets into your skull without breaking a sweat?!?!

It really is baffling this made it through QA, did the people testing it not mind that they were being raped sideways by the bots on their team being so stupid AND by the bots on the enemy just being too damn good :frowning:

(kiunk) #7

I am NOT experiencing ANY of these problems. (AUS region)

I played 1000’s of hours on ETQW on PS3 and Brink’s BOTS are pretty much the same.
They will be uber aimbots 1 minute and dumb as a post the next.
I can honestly say i get buffed more often by BOTS than players though.
Learn to help your team and they will reward you in return.

Maybe 1 in 10 games i random join have a little lag early on while connection syncs. but after that its fine.

I have a moderate net connection and get very little lag in ETQW and Brink on PS3.
I would assume the min. spec for connection is somewhat better than ETQW was. i.e. Below 1MBPS upload will probably be laggy.
I find a lot of people with a basic net connection join games and then complain about lag.:rolleyes:

(DissapointedCustomer) #8

[QUOTE=kiunk;321639]I am NOT experiencing ANY of these problems. (AUS region)

I played 1000’s of hours on ETQW on PS3 and Brink’s BOTS are pretty much the same.
They will be uber aimbots 1 minute and dumb as a post the next.
I can honestly say i get buffed more often by BOTS than players though.
Learn to help your team and they will reward you in return.

Maybe 1 in 10 games i random join have a little lag early on while connection syncs. but after that its fine.

I have a moderate net connection and get very little lag in ETQW and Brink on PS3.
I would assume the min. spec for connection is somewhat better than ETQW was. i.e. Below 1MBPS upload will probably be laggy.
I find a lot of people with a basic net connection join games and then complain about lag.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Of course thanks for pointing out that you have no glitches while I do, it must be something that I’m doing wrong right?

I also highly doubt my playing skill has anything to do with the bots sucking/being over powered as well pal. My team mate bots tend to stand around once they’ve done one task, run off to constantly battle over com posts even when the main objective is near to completion and just generally suck at fighting compared to the enemy bots. It makes for really annoying games seeing as most of the time i’m against a full team of enemy bots as the game never connects me to other players.

Also doubt my connection is an issue as i’ve had this connection under the same provider for 6 years now and the games i’ve played during that time online PC, 360 and PS3 have suffered no game breaking lag on a frequent game to game bases. I play BC2 online regularly without any lag which is surprising you’d think comparing the large hectic scale of battlefield to the simple indoor shootouts in Brink. These lag issues even happen when I am alone in a game with bots. :eek:

Glad to hear that some others are getting no issues.

Edit: Are us console gamers going to be getting the high quality PC patch from yesterday then? XD We still haven’t had the bot patch the PC users got on launch! Come on it’s been 2 weeks now!

(jfunk) #9

I don’t have PS3 version, but assuming the bots behave similarly I can give you one tip that should help with your inability to get support from them while completing objectives. It does appear that the AI does “over-value” capturing command posts. This works both ways though.

So, go ahead and help your bot teammates capture a couple command posts, then run on over to the objective (they’ll be heading there with you now too). Meanwhile, the opponent bots will all be running to take those command posts back over and leave you alone to work on the main objective. Sure, some of your bot teammates will start abandoning you once the enemy has taken back the command posts, but it will give you a big head start on the objective and some will stick with you if they’ve currently selected the objective or “escort X” as their objective. Others will at least delay the enemy as they cross paths with them on their way to the command posts and occupy them further.

Basically, their bots are no better than yours, it’s just that you normally wind up in a situation where you’re being outnumbered because you’ve allowed the enemy to control the command posts, so they have nothing “dividing their attention” and focus entirely on defending the main objective. Lend your superior skills to your bot teammates for a couple minutes so it’s YOUR team that has taken those command posts, and suddenly it will be your team that is enjoying the numbers advantage at the primary objective as the opposing bots spread themselves across the map.

(DissapointedCustomer) #10

[QUOTE=jfunk;321997]I don’t have PS3 version, but assuming the bots behave similarly I can give you one tip that should help with your inability to get support from them while completing objectives. It does appear that the AI does “over-value” capturing command posts. This works both ways though.

So, go ahead and help your bot teammates capture a couple command posts, then run on over to the objective (they’ll be heading there with you now too). Meanwhile, the opponent bots will all be running to take those command posts back over and leave you alone to work on the main objective. Sure, some of your bot teammates will start abandoning you once the enemy has taken back the command posts, but it will give you a big head start on the objective and some will stick with you if they’ve currently selected the objective or “escort X” as their objective. Others will at least delay the enemy as they cross paths with them on their way to the command posts and occupy them further.

Basically, their bots are no better than yours, it’s just that you normally wind up in a situation where you’re being outnumbered because you’ve allowed the enemy to control the command posts, so they have nothing “dividing their attention” and focus entirely on defending the main objective. Lend your superior skills to your bot teammates for a couple minutes so it’s YOUR team that has taken those command posts, and suddenly it will be your team that is enjoying the numbers advantage at the primary objective as the opposing bots spread themselves across the map.[/QUOTE]

Sorry Pal, I do know how the game works through the advantages of capturing com posts. That’s not my problem and I’m not going out of my way to capture com stations when our team is still failing at getting the main objective with only 5 minutes left in the game as my team have done sod all during the whole round.

And i’ve just updated in my last post that the PC users got a patch for the bots during the launch week while console users have had no such patch.

Edit: Also like to add in that the bots also never seem to use any of the flanking routes and just seem to priorities running in through the main choke point and dying or running in to give a random player a buff instead of shooting anyone :confused:

(jfunk) #11

[QUOTE=DissapointedCustomer;322004]Sorry Pal, I do know how the game works through the advantages of capturing com posts. That’s not my problem and I’m not going out of my way to capture com stations when our team is still failing at getting the main objective with only 5 minutes left in the game as my team have done sod all during the whole round.

And i’ve just updated in my last post that the PC users got a patch for the bots during the launch week while console users have had no such patch.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps you didn’t fully understand what I’m trying to say, I’m not accusing you of not knowing what the advantages of taking com posts are in the game mechanics. What I’m saying is that if you DO go take those com posts, it will draw the enemy bots away from the main objective and cause your own bot teammates to head to the main objective too.

It has nothing to do with the “advantages” your team gets from owning command posts. It has to do with manipulating the AI’s priority lists to steer where they focus their attention. Capturing command posts takes “capture command post” OFF of your AI teammates list of things to do while also adding it to the AI enemies’ list of things to do. This causes your teammates to become more focused on the primary objective while causing the enemy to become more scattered.

(DissapointedCustomer) #12

[QUOTE=jfunk;322021]Perhaps you didn’t fully understand what I’m trying to say, I’m not accusing you of not knowing what the advantages of taking com posts are in the game mechanics. What I’m saying is that if you DO go take those com posts, it will draw the enemy bots away from the main objective and cause your own bot teammates to head to the main objective too.

It has nothing to do with the “advantages” your team gets from owning command posts. It has to do with manipulating the AI’s priority lists to steer where they focus their attention. Capturing command posts takes “capture command post” OFF of your AI teammates list of things to do while also adding it to the AI enemies’ list of things to do. This causes your teammates to become more focused on the primary objective while causing the enemy to become more scattered.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps ill just wait for the patch that points out to the bots that capturing the com posts really isnt that vital with only 3 minutes remaining in the game. I shouldn’t really have to follow bots around either, you think one or two of them would have the sense to follow the one player attacking the main objective from a side route and not just running in to die.

(DissapointedCustomer) #13

Bump for SD reply, would like to know you’re looking at this.

(kiunk) #14

[QUOTE=DissapointedCustomer;321960] These lag issues even happen when I am alone in a game with bots. :eek:

Wow, sorry to hear that pal. If it happens offline too then theres a problem…
if your online and alone, i suspect connection issue.

I just find there are ways to work with the BOTS. If they are obssessed with capping a command post, try taking it yourself and defend it for a while. so they rejoin you in the main battle…
But Agreed their priorites are not always the same as yours.

(JulyDerek) #15

This happened 3 times yesterday.

When I got an invite and accepted it and was joining the game, my PS3 froze. Could hear the cutscene of the map but no buttons worked till I had to switch off my PS3.

I had a PSN chat going on at all 3 times when this happened.

PS: Have the same problems as the OP. Waiting for a patch to rectify that or going to sell of this game (which I pre-ordered with lots of hope).

(DissapointedCustomer) #16

When will the PS3 update be out and what issues will it address? Looking forward to my first full team game 2 weeks after buying it!

(ataliba) #17

truth is… the game is broken… and i think they won’t fix it
personally i feel robed by SD… I mean… from the stuff that they promissed they only (barely) delivered the parkour thingy.

(DissapointedCustomer) #18

This game is really just starting to take the piss now. I find an enemy bot running into a wall in a corner (no idea why, super smart AI right there) then proceed to start shooting him, his response is to turn around a second from death and instant kill shot me in the head while still turning :mad:
SD please respond and just tell me that you aware how messed up the PS3 version of Brink is, i’m still yet to see any feedback to anyone other than PC users.

(ataliba) #19

dam right!!! i’m thinking in trading it for tetris!

(DissapointedCustomer) #20

What are you on about? :rolleyes: